Talk:Stone Rollin'/GA1

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Reviewer: — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Start

Some basic redirect links and formatting issues per Checklinks.
You cna also try to add alt text for some extra points> :)

Done I fixed the redirects, formatted the xml link, and added alt text based on Rap-Up's page on the album cover. Dan56 (talk) 21:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

2009–2010 --> 2009–10 per MOS:DATE
{{Date}} is recommened for the singles release dates.
Please get the older versions of File:Stone Rollin.jpg deleted by an admin, as they are not supposed to be replaceable per WP:NFCC.

Lead

during 2009 to 2010 --> from 2009 to 2010.
Inspired by the louder, raw sound --> Inspired by the loud and raw sound... "loud" is suitable because adding "louder" gives the impression that his live performances had an increase in volume/euphoria etc later, which is not explained.
classicist --> link to classicism
give the release year in brackets for The Way I See It
modern detail, --> what does it mean?
selling 21,000 copies in its first week, as Saadiq's highest-charting release in the US. --> selling 21,000 copies in its first week and was Saadiq's highest-charting release in the country.
spanning March to August 2011 --> spanning from

Background

an album of 1960s Motown Sound-inspired --> Not clear which album you are referring to, this one or the previous one?
Same follows for the next sentence, which will be clarified by rephrasing the previous one.
The second para is nice.

Recording

Per MOS:IMAGES, that image of Rapahel should be placed left, so that it faces towards the article, not away from it.
which they applied in recording --> which they had applied in recording
The rest of the recording info is really impressive.

Music

No need of the quotes around Stone Rollin', even if some of the publications place it under quotations.
Wall of Sound is a recording technique, no need of the quotes.

Release

Main issue is sometimes you are mentioning the year, sometimes not. Maintain consistency. You can indicate that all of the promos etc happened in 2011 and then continue, else include the year.
Wherever Raphael has performed for promotion, can you include which songs from the album were performed?
Comma after December 21, 2010.
Same for others.

Reception

Include that the US sales are as per Nielsen SoundScan.
Use {{Rating-Christgau}} for the Christgau rating as is custom.

REferences

You are using two different date formats for the "date" and "accessdate" fields. Please choose any one.
En-dash in place of normal dash for the reference titles.
You don't need the extra string for the reference titles like "| Rolling Stone Music" "|Billboard.com" etc. Its redundant.
If you are planning for FAC with this, you have to follow these suggestions and also, remove About.com when you go there.

Good job on the article, placing onhold. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:11, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've addressed most of your points, but have some questions and responses about some of them.

Wouldn't "during" be more correct than "from", as the former sounds more to do with a time period rather than a starting point?
- Fine.
Why should "classicism" be linked, as that article is about the term in context with classical antiquity and not the more general meaning.
- OK.
Why should the release year be given in brackets for The Way I See It? I've stopped doing that a while ago after other editors told me it wasn't necessary. So, would "his previous 2008 album..." suffice?
- Either way, you need to mention when the previous album was released.
"modern detail", referring to what critics and writers pointed out about Saadiq adding some contemporary features, modern twist to it, production-wise, sonically, etc.
- "modern detail" doesnot exactly give a clear picture of that, why not say contemporary features?
I thought "an album of 1960s Motown Sound-inspired" would be referring to the latter, since it follows a comma, serving as a description.
- Umm, from a reader's perspective I had to go back and re-read it again to understand that, which is not what I want.
When you said "quotes around Stone Rollin'", did you mean in the publication's text that was quoted for the article or the reference titles, or both?
- For eg: at present you have "XX said that "Stone Rollin'" was ...." which needs to be changed to "XX said that Stone Rollin' was..."
About what songs he performed in promotion, most of the references about his previewing/premiering do not mention what songs.
Should "as per Nielsen SoundScan" be mentioned in all mentions of US sales, or would just one suffice (first-week sales, total sales at the end?)
- It should be mentioned once, and preferrably for the total available sales, along with month as of now. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dan56 (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I ~~added "which was" to "an album of..."~~ replaced ", an album of 1960s Motown..." with "which featured 1960s Motown...", "modern" → "contemporary", and kept "previous 2008 album..." and the Nielsen note when mentioning the total sales. About the quote around the album's name, where is the example you are referring? I might have changed it in this edit before your last response here. Dan56 (talk) 19:53, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Everythign looks fine now Dan, I am happy to pass this as a GA. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]