Talk:Stephen Grossberg
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[edit]This page redirects from "GROSSBERG," which is manifestly unfair to other Grossbergs. Can someone remove the redirection?
autobiography
[edit]I'd like to point out that most of the content of this article was apparently added by Stephen Grossberg himself on Oct 21, 2007. A lot of the information seems POV (i.e. frequently praising Grossberg) or unnecessary (the paragraph full of acronyms and terms). Anyone have any suggestions on fixing it up? I'll wait a couple days to hear from others before trying a quick clean up. digfarenough (talk) 21:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Agree with autobiography point above; but I'm writing this in 2012
[edit]I realize that Grossberg must have written some of this when I saw the part about how he's been studying the mind since taking his undergraduate psychology class. Could someone fix this up?Cratha (talk) 21:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- Grossberg is a founder of the fields of computational neuroscience, connectionist cognitive science, and neuromorphic technology[..] Grossberg has published seventeen books or journal special issues, over 500 research articles, and has seven patents. [..] Grossberg introduced the paradigm of using nonlinear systems of differential equations to show how brain mechanisms can give rise to behavioral functions. This paradigm is helping to solve the classical mind/body problem, and is the basic mathematical formalism that is used in biological neural network research today. Of historical interest is the fact that Artificial Intelligence also was born at Dartmouth College at a conference in the summer of 1956, just before Grossberg arrived there. In particular, in 1957-1958, Grossberg discovered widely used equations for (1) short-term memory (STM), or neuronal activation (often called the Additive and Shunting models, or the Hopfield model after John Hopfield's 1984 application of the Additive model equation); (2) medium-term memory (MTM), or activity-dependent habituation (often called habituative transmitter gates, or depressing synapses after Larry Abbott's 1997 introduction of this term); and [so on..]
- Shameless, if he's really done half of what this article claims there should be plenty of reputable tertiary sources which report on his having founded and originated all these fields. Cesiumfrog (talk) 09:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Agree with autobiography point above; but I'm writing this in 2015
[edit]The tone of the entire article is very POV; or perhaps he truly has done all the things he claims? Echoing the above comments, if he really has done so, there should be no problem citing a peer-reviewed scientific paper for each and everyone - he is a scientist after all. I am quite familiar with most of the topics discussed in the article and could go through and address each one individually, providing evidence where needed to explain why it either 1) was not introduced by Grossberg, 2) lacks the accounting of colleagues sufficiently or 3) just does not have the impact claimed here in the article, however the burden of evidence is clearly on the writer of this article.
It fails on many points in Biographies_of_living_persons not worth noting because it fails at the first hurdle, namely "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." I posit that the unsourced claims are contentious because many in the field disagree with Grossberg's claims to have invented/pioneered so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.229.65.187 (talk) 13:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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Agree with autobiography point above; but I'm writing this in 2019...
[edit]... and decided to at least do something about it rather than to keep on complaining. To that end, I removed a bunch of info that was clearly added by Grossberg or someone close to him. Having difficulties finding sources and I did not touch the research and other sections underneath, because I'm not too well versed in the field and have hard time judging what should stay and what should not.
However, I think overall the page contains intricate detail that is only interesting to a small number of people, and even they would probably look at scientific publications, rather than Wikipedia (hopefully).Corantor (talk) 12:24, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Self referencing
[edit]I've deleted this sentence : Still other scientists call it the Cohen-Grossberg-Hopfield model.[1] Since the only 'other scientists' which refer this model are actually Grossberg himself at the cited scholarpedia term. It seems that there a debate regarding the first right about this model but the contribution of Grossberg (other than in here) is not clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yonkatz (talk • contribs) 12:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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