Talk:Stephanie Burt

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Bibliography

I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section using cite templates. Capitalization and punctuation follow standard cataloguing rules in AACR2 and RDA, as much as Wikipedia templates allow it. Feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 (talk) 23:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Author changed their name in 2017, but works published before the change use their previous name. Sunwin1960 (talk) 01:43, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

list of Poems

I've removed the section in the bibliography titled "List of Poems" as there is currently only one poem in this section and I have not seen similar lists in other poets bibliographies. If these lists are common (and I've just been looking at the wrong poets) then the list can be added back (and maybe filled in with a few more poems) Dmgustav (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of 'Stephen Burt'

Shouldn't under MOS:GIDINFO their birth/old name of Stephen Burt be included? Burt's most notable event was done under the name Stephen Burt and the bibliography includes the name too. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion is that I don't think so. It's mentioned enough in her bibliography. I don't think it will come as a surprise to readers and I also don't think it's confusing. She's continuing to do notable things, it's not like she won one big award with a name that was very different. Jessamyn (my talk page) 19:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was confused for a second after getting here when finding something that was from 'Stephen Burt' and getting to this article before realising, I don't think having Stephen Burt in the lead is harmful and is supported by the policy. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't go so far as to say "harmful" but I'm also not sure it's needed. I'll put a note up on the WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies talk page because this is a question that should get input from a larger community. Jessamyn (my talk page) 21:18, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In this article from 2017 from early in her transition, she said she also went by Steph or her deadname, primarily because she wasn't sure which she wanted to use in print at the time.

It appears however that since then, she has published more new works such as After Callimachus: Poems (2020) and We Are Mermaids (2022) under Stephanie.

So while it's not a strict case of suppression based on her expression of it in 2017, I think her wishes to be known by Stephanie, as well as supported by her more recent published works should be respected and she is notable now under her name and was not only notable with her deadname, so I think it's a case of where we don't need to include it in the lead, but we could add it to the Bibliography with a brief "some older works were published under the name Steph or Stephen Burt. Raladic (talk) 21:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People are going to find older works published under 'Stephen Burt', which is how I came across this article. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think if people are likely to be coming here searching for the old name, then we need it in the intro, so that people know they're on the right page. That's the kind of concern that MOS:GID reflects. If we know the old name she published under was actually her birthname, then we put (born OldName, 1971) after her name in the intro; otherwise, (formerly OldName). And doing this will let us remove that old name from later in the article -- for the list of her poetry collections, we can just put the title-and-year information and skip the author name. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 04:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am editing it in, if it was a name that she was notable under and has a strong presence in her sources, it is covered as you all have said by MOS:GENDERID's notability criterion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antisymmetricnoise (talk • contribs) 14:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]