Talk:Stars (restaurant)

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

It is requested that a photograph be included in this article to improve its quality.

Wikipedians in San Francisco may be able to help!

The external tool WordPress Openverse may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

California: San Francisco Bay Area Low‑importance

	California portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject California, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of California on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CaliforniaWikipedia:WikiProject CaliforniaTemplate:WikiProject CaliforniaCalifornia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	San Francisco Bay Area portal This article is supported by San Francisco Bay Area task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

Food and drink: Foodservice Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Food and drinkWikipedia:WikiProject Food and drinkTemplate:WikiProject Food and drinkFood and drink articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Related taskforces:
/
	This article is supported by the Foodservice task force (assessed as Low-importance).

Food and Drink task list:

To edit this page, select here

Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Food and drink:

Help bring these Top Importance articles currently B Status or below up to GA status: Agaricus bisporus (i.e. mushroom), Beef, Bread, Curry, Drink, Food, Ham and eggs, Soy sauce, Sushi, Yogurt
Bring these Top Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Beer, French cuisine, Sugar
Bring these High Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Apple, Burger King, Fish
Participate in project-related deletion discussions.
Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review WP:Trivia and WP:Handling trivia to learn how to do this.
Add the {{WikiProject Food and drink}} project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, select here.
Provide photographs and images for Category:Wikipedia requested images of food
Consider joining this project's Assessment task force. List any project ideas in this section

Note: These lists are transcluded from the project's tasks pages.

United States Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Citation tag justification

One reference specifically says Chez Panisse was the birthplace of California cuisine. I.e., not Stars.

Peacock language, i.e., things that, at best, need verification: "landmark restaurant" -- what does that mean -- it was in a guidebook?. "busy open kitchen" -- other kitchens aren't busy? "instant sensation" -- give me a break, that's straight hype, "top-grossing restaurants" -- prove it.

The reference doesn't say that Tower declared he was done with California, it's the columnist's comment in passing that he "apparently was." (The same columnist that Tower refused to talk to. According to the article. Apparently.)

Statements such as "launched the careers" would probably be disputed by some of the chefs, themselves. "Greatly furthered the careers" would be a little less hype-like.

It's really tiresome to wade through the innuendos and fashionably correct articles from the San Francisco Chronicle: they don't appear reliable, they aren't from primary sources, and by far the bulk of the material comes from a columnist who Towers wouldn't talk to. One could spend forever debating which renowned chefs were "launched" by an institution -- as opposed to publicity, happenstance, or perhaps -- talent. Therefore the statements do not belong in an encyclopedia. 67.169.126.223 (talk) 15:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Landmark restaurant" - clearly true in every sense. It was iconic, world famous, a watershed of cuisine, etc.

"Busy" - yes. And no, most kitchens did not have the volume.

"Instant" - yes. Quickly became busy.

"Top-grossing" - in sources.

"Launched careers" - generally acknowledged.

The San Francisco Chronicle is a reliable source, whether you like it or not. The article in question is a thoroughly researched that won the highest award for its genre, the James Beard award for food writing. If you wish the tone to be somewhat drier, or have specific suggestions, you are welcome to expand and improve the article. However, it sounds as if you are bringing some personal opinions and perhaps experience the matter, which you may have to check at the door when you wish to edit an article like this. - Wikidemo (talk) 18:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FOOD Tagging

This article talk page was automatically added with {{WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Restaurants or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. You can find the related request for tagging here -- TinucherianBot (talk) 11:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]