Talk:Star (guitar)

Rosa Hurricane

(original article name)

I can see only one web reference to this instrument, other than mirrors of Wikipedia. However, it's a posting on a MySpace page. Can anyone provide a better cite? -- The Anome 09:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, that's exciting! Where's the other web reference? I haven't found it.

I suspect this is a non-notable guitar. Rosa is probably a house brand of Rose Music, at one time a prolific Australian importer of student instruments. We don't have articles on either Rose Music or Rosa guitars at last check! The Maton Freshman next to it in the photo is a far more significant model.

But, the star body shape is notable enough that Warmoth Guitars have it as one of their strat replacement bodies. So it's possible that there's an article to be written on guitars of this body shape, with Rosa Hurricane as a redirect to it. Rose Music probably deserves an article one day too.

I bought this particular example at a church flea market in sadly-neglected condition, but I just liked it. And it brushed up well, once I resolved the little problem that the guitar had been manufactured with the bridge almost 1/2" out of position. (;-> Andrewa 22:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article reads like an advert on eBay. It is written about one particular guitar, not of a guitar model. Everybody could post an article about the instruments they own, but these articles probably wouldn't satisfy any criteria of notability. - Quirk 16:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, it's my guitar, and I didn't write the article, and I agree! But it's a notable body shape IMO, and I've come up with some info which I'll include (in my spare (;-> time). The article should be moved to something like Star (guitar), and refactored to this topic. Andrewa 23:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Star guitar

Seems to be originally by Jackson Guitars, see http://www.jcguitars.com/stardeath.htm for a through-neck example.

I can find no evidence that Washburn Guitars ever made one, as suggested at Talk:Electric guitar#Gotta Say - but they might have.

See http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/bodies/radical.cfm?fuseaction=star for at least one way of getting one... but without the through-neck body. Andrewa 00:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leaping in to point out that Washburn did indeed sell the Bootsy Collins Space Bass 2002-2006 as well as various Dimebag Darrell models including the CP2003 Culprit. None of this is particularly difficult to verify for anyone capable of mastering basic Google.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 09:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move and refactor done

...And possibly it's still borderline notability, but it's obviously an area in which information is lacking and needed... see Talk:Electric guitar#Rosa Hurricane: Does this thing actually exist?....

Interesting how similar the body shape is to this one used as the guitar stub icon. But I suspect the icon is an imaginary guitar, while this one is not only real, it has been available from at least three different makers. Andrewa 05:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Charvel or Jackson

My, there have been some interesting edits to this page... it's obviously a design you either love or hate. I already knew that... my favourite comment is still does this thing really exist. I suspect that the unfavourable comments come mostly from people who've never played one, but then I kinda like it so that's my POV showing through.

But the latest raises some interesting issues... it's not the first time Charvel Guitars have been suggested to me as a maker (as have Washburn Guitars, see Talk:Electric guitar#Gotta Say). Are these just guesses (at best), or is there some evidence?

Jackson and Charvel are closely connected makes of course, see the articles, and eventually merged and later became part of the Fender octopus. But they always were and remain separate brands.

See

http://fr.audiofanzine.com/produits/avis/index,idproduit,50489,mao,jackson_kelly_star_ksxt.html (in French) for a picture of a Jackson Kelly Star
http://www.harmonicacountry.com/Articles/54.html for another mention but no photo
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=766142 which looks like it should have a photo but doesn't seem to
http://www.guitarasylum.com/productpages/jackson/ksxt_blk2001.htm for a better photo
http://www.guitarshop.net/jacksonksxtguitar.htm another photo, says it's discontinued

and any more info appreciated. All of these are Jacksons, of course. Andrewa 11:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other Makers

At http://www.jcguitars.com/nonfloyd.htm there are a number of star bodies, notably a light blue Charvel Pointy Star Body (I put this in here because C and J guys are the only ones that would buy it, contoured arch body, one hum, all gold hard ware, strat head stock), and a white Series Ten Star Body (very old). And http://www.jcguitars.com/floyd.htm includes a black Kramer Voyager, also a star, and a couple of Washburn Dime models, similar but unlikely to ever compete with the classic star design owing to the large lower tail horn, which makes it heavier, less balanced and most uncomfortable to play when seated. See Image:DimebagDarrell.jpg for a photo of a Dime (actually a Dean ML I think) in full flight...! Andrewa 01:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Someone can put up a silhouette of a guitar body shaped like a symmetric five-point star and NOBODY thinks of Bootsy Collins?? Leave aside all the custom-built one-off guitars and there's still at least the Washburn Space Bass and another from Warwick. I did see one on Reverb.com built by Greg Curbow

Did anyone else notice that a "silhouette" becomes a "profile" for this article...??
Weeb Dingle (talk) 09:19, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

is there a Body shapes (guitar) article?

If there is no such central point, then (IMO) this calls into question whether any particular need exists for this to be a separate article. What makes it notable?

How do I look at a guitar and determine whether it is actually a "star"? Unless THAT question can be answered -- in the article,mind -- the article's need for continued existence is approximately zero.

Is a Hondo H1 "Death Dagger" a "star" guitar? If not, why? How about their "Coyote" model? Maybe a "Sting" bass? Certainly the "Metal Master" H2!! (Hondo's not mentioned at all.)

Not aided by leaps of fanboy faith without the least effort at objectivity, for example As with most other "star" guitars, the body was a variant of the "Explorer" shape which, if valid, should maybe have been at the top of the article.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 09:16, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

and this is why it shall be dealt with harshly

It's the fanboys that ruin it for everyone:

You can still order from Wayne Charvels brand, Waynes Guitars, the classic design in any colour or option, or from the Charvel Custom Shop, where some of the original Charvel operators are still working in (eldred, shannon and the other cats).

The Charvel desolation star guitar is a cheaper alternative, mass-produced in asían countries at a fraction of the price, sporting 24 fret necks.

Whoops: gone. More to follow.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 06:45, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]