Talk:Stan Coveleski

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Coveleski image

There have been several attempts to remove the image of Stan Coveleski from this article. Please know that this image is from Wikipedia Commons and is therefore freely licensed. Removal of this image qualifies as vandalism. -- twelsht (talk) 02:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The image identified as "Stan Coveleski" is actually Stan's brother Harry Coveleski, taken in 1909, per the block "P" on the left sleeve and plain dark cap, the only year the Phillies wore this combination. Stan Coveleski's career did not begin in earnest until 1916 and he never wore any uniform with block lettering on the left sleeve, nor a logoless cap. Please compare other contemporary photos of Stan Coveleski and you will see that the two players do not even look alike. The photo was obviously misidentified by someone at the Chicago Historical Society or Daily News. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckklein (talk • contribs) 09:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chuck, Thanks for catching this. There's a strong family resemblance, but you correctly pointed out that the photograph in Wikipedia Commons is of Harry, not Stan. Best, twelsht (talk) 17:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Twelsht, thanks. From your bio and edits on Wikipedia, I figured you would appreciate historical accuracy as much as I do. Unfortunately, that pic is misidentified all over the internet. My speculation on the photo is that it was taken on the Phillies' first trip to Chicago in 1909, the season after Harry beat the Giants three times at the end of the 1908 season, allowing the Cubs to eventually catch the Giants, win the replayed "Merkle game" and the pennant and finally their last World Series title. If not for Harry, the Cubs never would have made the post-season. The pic was probably simply labeled "Coveleski" by the photographer, since Stan was not in baseball at the time, and mislabeled ever since. Thanks again for your input; I enjoy your work here on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckklein (talk • contribs) 14:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chuck, Thanks for the kind words. I suspect you're right about the reason for the mixup. Stan Coveleski's career overshadowed Harry's to such an extent that many observers later assumed there was just one notable Coveleski in baseball. Thanks, again, for catching this. With appreciation, twelsht (talk) 17:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I continue to remove the photograph misidentified as "Stan Coveleski". It is, in fact, a photo of his brother Harry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckklein (talk • contribs) 15:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image was finally renamed, so won't happen again. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Albacore (talk · contribs) 00:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing the article shortly. Albacore (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

win-loss record to win–loss record

Infobox needs ndashes for year ranges and the win-loss numbers.

Coveleski was rarely able to play baseball as a child, given that he almost never saw the sunlight I'm uncomfortable with the second part of the sentence. Coveleski was rarely able to play baseball as a child would do.

I'm also not comfortable with the amount of quotes used.

File:Lancaster Red Roses baseball team (team photo, 1909).jpg could use a URL, or a source better than "private collection".

Refs 11, 18, 29 need an ndash

In September 1912, the Philadelphia Athletics called him up to the major leagues, and he made his debut on September 10. Implies that the two clubs were related; some clarification would be helpful

File:Coveleskie.jpg could use a source URL and a "review"

Coveleski had lost 10 pounds due to illness during 1916, but during the offseason he spent his time recovering, gained 20 pounds and appearing in far better health. Rewrite would be nice, "appearing" should be in past tense.

both second in the American League to Walter Johnson.[9][4] switch

Coveleski was the star of the 1920 World Series, in which he pitched three complete game victories. "star" is a WP:PEACOCK term.

Coveleski returned to the Indians in 1921 hoping to bring them another pennant. not convinced that the second part is necessary

he stated that he "Didn't like the town capitalization

In game two, he faced Vic Aldridge n a pitcher's duel in?

National Polish-American Hall of Fame ->> National Polish-American Sports Hall of Fame

is control was legendary, and it was not unusual for him to pitch a complete game having thrown 95 pitches or less;he once pitched seven innings of a game where every pitch was either a hit or a strike "legendary" is a WP:PEACOCK term; space after semicolon

I'm putting the article on hold. Albacore (talk) 01:26, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Issues mostly fixed. For the 1909 image, I can't find a URL where that's been used, sans a couple blogs where the image was put up years later; seems a bit iffy to just use that. Ironically the lack of finding it makes the private collection check out (the uploader's done quite a bit on deadball players). For the 1920 star sentence, I could reword it, but not sure of a good way to. He did win 3 games in a World Series, which is significant enough to note, and that is as close to a WS star as one can get. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 15:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two other comments:

Images could use alt-text.
We have {{find a grave}} for the external link.

After those are addressed I'm happy enough to pass the article. Albacore (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)_{Operation Big Bear} 16:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the second; for the first I'm not good at alt-text, and it's not a requirement anyway. If they ask at FAC I could find someone to add it in then. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pass. Albacore (talk) 02:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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1918 season

Was the 1918 season shortened because of the flu epidemic, or because of WW1, as the 1918 baseball season article states? 67.190.4.33 (talk) 01:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]