Talk:St Mary's Church, Llanfair-yng-Nghornwy/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Malleus Fatuorum (talk · contribs) 00:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Lead

• "... and the church is now entered through the tower". That seems a little abrupt, as we haven't been told that the church has a tower.
  • Err, "The tower at the west end is from the 17th century. A south porch of unknown date has been converted into a vestry, and the church is now entered through the tower."

• "Writers in the 19th century commented upon the 'lofty square tower', the 'very good' east window, and the 'many elegant monuments', while the clergyman and antiquarian Harry Longueville Jones called St Mary's 'one of the best specimens of an old parish church in the island.'" "While" implies simultaneity; were all the comments made simultaneously?
  • Reworded

History and location

• "The date of first construction of a church on this site is uncertain". Seems rather awkward to me. What about something like "It is uncertain when the first church was constructed on the site"?
  • OK

• "A 2006 book about Anglesey churches records the suggestion ...". Yuk! "Records the suggestion"?
  • The book says "... some believe the church may have been established by [him]" so I wanted to make it clear that it wasn't Mr Jones's own idea, nor was it anything more than a theory. However, as Sabine Baring-Gould's four-volume Lives of the British Saints doesn't record the suggestion in the entry for St Pedyr (and nor does any other source I can find) it's probably not worth including it. Removed.

• "In the middle of the 19th century the porch entrance was blocked off and replaced by a window, and access to the church is now through a door on the west side of the tower." Surely it isn't just now but since the porch entrance was blocked off?
  • Reworded

• "The 1847 restoration was carried out by the Sheffield-based architects Weightman and Hadfield." What 1847 restoration?
  • Reworded

• "There was a proposal to add a chapel to the north side, but this did not happen." Who proposed it?
  • Reworded

• "As of October 2011, there has not been an incumbent priest since September 2009". That reads very oddly to me, as there would not have been an incumbent priest since September 2009 no matter when you were writing.
  • Do you have a better suggestion? If I just says "There has not been an incumbent priest since Sept 2009", the reader may wonder whether that statement is still accurate, hence the "as of". Later: How does "As of October 2011, there is no incumbent priest at the church, and there has not been one since September 2009" strike you?

• "James, Frances and Kyffin (who died in 2006) are buried in the churchyard." Did they all die in 2006?
  • Obviously not. I don't really think that anyone will think that after reading that James was a 19th-century rector and a memorial was put up to him by his great-grandson. Reworded anyway...

Tower and porch

• "The tower has external buttresses and the door on the west side is set in a pointed arch frame with a hood mould.[3] The buttress and door were added to the tower". Why "buttresses" and then "buttress"?
  • Incompetence on my part

Assessment

• "Writing in 1833, before the restoration of 1840 ...". What restoration of 1840?
  • Typo

Thanks for the review and your helpful copyedits. Bencherlite^Talk 13:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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