Talk:Squadron

Question moved from article

How many companies make up a squadron? How many soldiers? Approx. 100-200 soliders in a Company.

Merger with Squadron (aviation)

Squadron (aviation) seems to have almost exactly the same contents as this article. This is an instance of unacceptable content forking and I can't find any consensus on keeping these articles separate. Why not merge Squadron (Aviation) into this article? Fleet Command (talk) 02:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

According to the history, the split was done because of interwiki problems. I guess the editor forgot to remove the bulk of the content here. Unless other information comes to light, I Oppose the merge, and support the removal of the remaing material from this article. - BilCat (talk) 03:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

BilCat is right. The English term "squadron" is too wide, and it covers several different types of units, each one of which is linked to different iw. Merging it completely will mess it up completely, after all that outstanding effort to sort the iw articles out. -- Prokurator11 (talk) 04:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, guys, I really need more explanation because your reasoning sounds strange and ... well, unacceptable to me. For instance, what's with "removal of remaining material from this article"? What article and what removal are you talking about and who talked about removal? What is this Interwiki reason that cannot be resolved by a simple redirect? Beside, what's the wideness of the term "Squadron" has to do with this issue? You see, article Squadron is separated into multiple sections and discusses all these senses. Article Squadron (aviation) is exactly the same as "Aviation" section of Squadron. This is called unacceptable content forking, per WP:CFORK.

Perhaps I may accept your opposition if you explained it to me better.

Any by the way, what do you guys mean by "here"? I'm just wondering whether you know that you are in Squadron talk page? (Perhaps you've come here from Squadron (avaiation) and you don't know it.)

Fleet Command (talk) 08:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

"I guess the editor forgot to remove the bulk of the content here." By that, I meant he left the content in Squadron, rather than removing it after he created Squadron (aviation). So yes, I did actually know what article talk page I was in. Was it really that difficult to understand? Finally, we don't need you to accept our opposition - a consensus does not need to be unanimous. - BilCat (talk) 17:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Ouch! Don't bite me, man! I come in piece! And please don't speak as if you own Wikipedia. Some people might take it to be impolite. Perhaps you'd better follow the example of Necessary Evil below. See how nicely he explained things? Fleet Command (talk) 21:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but when people say thinks like "Perhaps I may accept your opposition if you explained it to me better," or when people don't understand what I wrote, then act like I'm the one who didn't understand, I get a bit testy. Apologies, but please watch your own tone. - BilCat (talk) 23:41, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

The English word "squadron" has several meanings: 100-150 cavalrymen or 10-12 tanks in the army, 12-24 aircraft in the air force or a number of ships in the navy. In other languages "squadron" is being translated to different words:

French: escadron, escadrille and escadre.

Spanish: escuadrón, escuadrilla and escuadra.

Italian: squadrone, squadriglia and squadra (also squad in the army, so not interwikied here).

Portuguese: esquadrão, esquadrilha and esquadra.

Russian: зскадрон, зскадрилья and зскадра.

Ukrainian: eскадрон, eскадрилья and eскадра.

Bulgarian: eскадрон, eскадрилья and eскадра.

Danish: eskadron, eskadrille and eskadre.

German: Schwadron, Staffel and Geschwader.

Dutch: eskadron, squadron and eskader.

etc.

The bots had problems in interwikiing all those articles to Squadron, so I created Squadron (cavalry) and Squadron (aviation) to solve the problem. BTW Squadron (naval) was already detached in 2006. I copied the contents from "Squadron" and should have transformed it to a disambiguation page, but I wanted to see if anyone argued. If "Squadron (aviation)" is merged with "Squadron", the problems start again as the Interwiki robots don't recognise redirection pages. I Oppose the merge and supports transformation to a disambiguation page. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 16:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the great explanation. (So, you meant this kind of interwiki...!) By all means go ahead and complete this entire process to Wikipedia's standards. If you needed help, I'm always around; just call me. I'm pulling off the merger tags. Fleet Command (talk) 21:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I completed the job. This article is now a disambiguation page. Proceeding with linked articles now... Fleet Command (talk) 21:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I Support the completion of the process of making this page into a DAB page. (For those who might think I don't know what page I'm on again, I mean Squadron should become the DAB page.) - BilCat (talk) 17:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I just want to apologize the mess, I should have been bold and transformed "Squadron" to a disambiguation page right away. But I was tired after battling the bots and confused by accusations of copyvio [1] and unsourced material [2]. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 23:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. You, for one, need not apologize. Although, it is evidently unreferenced... but we'll add references in due course. Fleet Command (talk) 23:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)