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Please ADD Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (IL-3) as a Member of The Squad. Sources are available below. Rep. Ramirez was endorsed by Squad Members Congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley, and Senators Bernie Sanders & Elizabeth Warren in her first primary. Ramirez also committed to numerous Squad priorities including Medicare for All and the Green New Deal. Other sources available below.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/progressives-dark-money-midterms-squad-democrats https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greg-casar-summer-lee-delia-ramirez-house-progressives-1389261/ https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/11/progressives-midterms-maxwell-frost-delia-ramirez-summer-lee-greg-casar.html https://www.deliaforcongress.com/endorsements 1997chicago (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please clarify where the information should be implemented in the article. Also, the Rolling Stone article, for example, does not state that she joined the Squad, but only intends to do so if elected. The latter is already covered in the article. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 14:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rashida Tlaib appears to have confirmed that Ramirez is a part of the Squad in a fundraising email: https://twitter.com/TOteroCA/status/1773220581724324145 94.173.75.153 (talk) 01:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Political positions" section

Many of the political organization in the US have a "political positions" section. Even though the Squad is not a massive political entity, they still share some common political views. Because of this, I've added a political positions section to this page. I have aimed for neutral positioning, and followed Wikipedia's rules about BOP. I am sure I have missed a few common political views, so add them if you see them necessary. Uncodeable (talk) 15:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is Wikipedia trying to still remain neutral?

This run-down of The Squad is incredibly politically charged and multiple people I have spoken with agree. 108.50.240.215 (talk) 21:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal: "far left" --> "leftist"

The term "far left" has a pejorative flavor, strongly implying that the Squad's positions are WP:FRINGE, that is, so far out of the mainstream that they can be dismissed as irrelevant. Despite the fact that US-based RS have used that term for them, their views would be considered mainstream in many parts of the world, where words like "socialist" (as in "Democratic Socialist") appear in names for major political parties. It would be consistent with WP:NPOV and WP:GLOBAL to change "far left" to "leftist" in the lead sentence and anywhere else. NightHeron (talk) 08:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have reliable sources for "leftist"? That actually strikes me as more pejorative than "far left". It's not our job to opine on whether they're mainstream or outside the mainstream in my opinion just follow the reliable sources. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 22:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend we describe them as simply left-wing, as actual far-leftists like Marxist-Leninists consider the Squad too moderate. LavaringX (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, do you have reliable sources for simply "left wing"? We have Politico, NYT, WSJ, Punchbowl, and WaPo all describing them as "far left":

McHugh, Calder (January 4, 2024). "The Squad under siege". Politico. the Democratic "Squad," the group of far-left House members
Caldwell, Leigh Ann; Meyer, Theodoric; Dent, Alec (2024-06-25). "Analysis | Bowman's primary resurfaces Democratic divisions". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2024-06-25. Bowman, a member of the far-left 'Squad,' has
Barkan, Ross (2023-02-22). "'The Democratic Party in New York Is a Disaster'". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2024-06-25. Jamaal Bowman, a Westchester County congressman and a member of the Squad, the prominent group of far-left members of Congress, including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar.
"Bowman slams AIPAC in final debate with Latimer". Punchbowl News. Retrieved 2024-06-25. Bowman is embracing underdog status in his competitive primary against Westchester County Executive George Latimer, who is seeking to be the first mainstream Democrat to knock off a member of the far-left Squad.
Sotomayor, Marianna; Caldwell, Leigh Ann (2024-08-05). "Why St. Louis voters might ditch Cori Bush". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2024-08-07. a second member of the House's far-left "Squad"

We need to stick to how reliable sources describe them. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 18:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You absolutely need your heads checked if you think the Democratic Party has anyone who remotely fits "far left" as a descriptor. Don't threaten everyone with a good time... Last time I checked, AOC wasn't a Marxist. 80.3.213.26 (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You just cited a whole bunch of neoliberal rags. "Far left" is absolutely an absurd term to describe squad. Davidod87 (talk) 05:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. It's like the way the MAGA people refer to the Democratic Party as "communist". Just plain dumb. NightHeron (talk) 10:37, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how "Progressive" isn't a good enough catch all. The fact it's been left as "Far left" and locked is blatant bias Widdletizz (talk) 18:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Left-wing would be a correct term to define The Squad. –yeagvr · ✉ 21:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appears we now have four proposed descriptions of the Squad's ideology: far-left (status quo), left wing, leftist, and progressive.

I see there are some reliable sources that use different variations of all of these so it really comes down to somebody who wants to change it from the status quo compiling these and building a consensus one way or the other. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that left-wing most accurately describes The Squad as a whole, both relative to the Democratic Party and international politics, while 'leftist' may have a pejorative tone, 'far-left' would be inaccurate and 'progressive' would be too vague, as many establishment Democrats have adopted the label of progressive while maintaining political positions distant from those of The Squad. 72.53.100.164 (talk) 02:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]