Talk:Spoonmaker's Diamond

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Spoonmaker's Diamond article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Turkey Low‑importance

	Turkey portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Turkey, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Turkey and related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TurkeyWikipedia:WikiProject TurkeyTemplate:WikiProject TurkeyTurkey articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Gemology and Jewelry: Gemstones

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Gemology and Jewelry on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Gemology and JewelryWikipedia:WikiProject Gemology and JewelryTemplate:WikiProject Gemology and JewelryGemology and Jewelry articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Gemstones subpage.

Spelling of Spoonmaker's

Currently at wikipedia, the spelling of this word is Spoonmaker's. But in a book by George E. Harlow called The Nature of Diamonds, the spelling of this word is Spoon Maker's. I can find neither Spoon-Maker nor Spoonmaker in any dictionary, though I found both of those spellings (Spoon-Maker's and Spoonmaker's) at various internet sites about this diamond.

I have found various references to "spoon maker" as being the way to spell the job/profession where a person is a maker of wooden spoons. But I am concerned about the spelling of this diamond particularly. Anyone have other sources in print which list this diamond, and how is it spelled in the various official sources? Thanks. Fallendarling (talk) 19:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PBS broken link

I removed this non-working link from the "See also" section. But If anyone has time to search PBS's current website for a similar link, it could be of value to re-list a working link. I'm thinking their website possibly had a reorg, but they may still have the same "Going Places" slideshow feature about Turkey and this diamond. I don't have time atm. Thanks. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/goingplaces3/turkey/slide11.html Fallendarling (talk) 20:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Topkapi Palace / "See also" links relevance

Currently the only two "See also" links are these:

My concern is that neither of these goes to any page which is directly relevant to the subject of this article -- they seem more relevant to the Topkapi palace article, which is already linked to this diamond article. I am wondering if it would be better to:

be sure these two links are included in the links section of Topkapi palace,
then find a few good links directly relevant to "Spoonmaker's Diamond",
next, add the better links to the "See also" section of this article (could also possibly add an internal link to Topkapi palace which might be far better than linking to these external palace URL's directly),
then remove the two questionable links from the "See also" section (there may be sub-pages of the 2 links which are directly relevant to the diamond, but in my opinion, those subpages should be found and linked, rather than sending the reader to a non-English page which is difficult to navigate and find the appropriate content, as is currently the case with one of these links, it took me awhile to find how to change the page to English, then it took awhile to figure out what section would have the information about the diamond).

I don't think we should remove these two links until better ones are found as replacements... at least they give the reader something related to explore in the meantime. Thanks, I wish I had time to work on this but I don't atm. Fallendarling (talk) 20:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Ortayli was in that symposium; so what?

Spoonmaker's Diamond § Captain Camus and Napoleon's Mother concludes with

For his part, Dr. Ilber Ortayli, Director of the Topkapi Museum, participated at the 2nd International Symposium of History of Preveza held at that city in 2009, though speaking mainly of a later period in Ottoman history rather than of the origins of the Spoonmaker's Diamond.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

Even leaving aside the last clause ("though speaking..."), this says nothing about the diamond, let alone this particular tale. It cites four references, none of them online, thus not easily checked. I'm going to boldly delete the paragraph with its refs, pasting it here in this comment in case good reason is found for restoring it. Even if it is restored, its relevance will have to be made explicit.

References

^ Goodwin Jason: «Lords of the Horizons», Chapter 24, The Auspicious Event, 1998 edition
^ Davis Claire: «The Palace of Topkapi in Istanbul», Publisher Charles Scribner's Sons, New York 1970. pp. 213–217. ASIN B000NP64Z2
^ Dr. Ilber Ortayli's thesis, announced at the Symposium, was entitled "Society and the governor in Preveza during the time of Abdulhamid II" – Program, Second International Symposium on History of Preveza, Preveza, 16–20 September 2009. The Symposium followed publication of the first edition of History of Preveza Prefecture
^ Harry Gouvas: "History of Preveza Prefecture", editions of Museum of Arts and Sciences, Preveza,2009, ISBN 978-960-87328-2-7

--Thnidu (talk) 23:32, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Goodwin Jason: «Lords of the Horizons», Chapter 24, The Auspicious Event, 1998 edition

[2] Davis Claire: «The Palace of Topkapi in Istanbul», Publisher Charles Scribner's Sons, New York 1970. pp. 213–217. ASIN B000NP64Z2

[3] Dr. Ilber Ortayli's thesis, announced at the Symposium, was entitled "Society and the governor in Preveza during the time of Abdulhamid II" – Program, Second International Symposium on History of Preveza, Preveza, 16–20 September 2009. The Symposium followed publication of the first edition of History of Preveza Prefecture

[4] Harry Gouvas: "History of Preveza Prefecture", editions of Museum of Arts and Sciences, Preveza,2009, ISBN 978-960-87328-2-7

[1]

[2]

[3]

[4]