Talk:Splatoon 3/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 20:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will get to this midnight or one a.m. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 20:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Placed on hold for now. I will get to the spotcheck later today. Note this is my first time reviewing a video game-related article, so please bear with me! ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 02:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck done! Please ping me once you have addressed my concerns so that I will know when to reevaluate. Feel free to continue asking me questions about anything you are unsure of. Thanks, ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 00:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@LunaEatsTuna: Should be done pending your reply to some of my comments below in which I pinged you. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:52, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LunaEatsTuna: Alright I'm done. Go ahead and reevaluate it. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work! Everything looks good to go. I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status per the changes you implemented. Congrats on your first GA! ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 17:37, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check

Earwig Copyvio Detector says good to go. Quotations are reasonable and used in-line with WP:COPYQUOTE.

Files

All images used are relevant, appropriate and copyright-free:

File:Splatoon.3.jpg: valid non-free use rationale;

File:Splatoon 3 Turf War.jpg: valid non-free use rationale;

File:Splatoon 3 Salmon Run.jpg: valid non-free use rationale.

Prose

Lead

"all featuring ink-based combat." – is a pretty confusing sentence. Maybe something like "all featuring combat themed around ink." would be more informative.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:46, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence of the second paragraph reads awkwardly. I would split "and received generally favorable reviews from critics." into its own sentence beginning with it.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:47, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gameplay

"in the Splatoon series, Splatoon 3 is a third-person shooter." – wikilink third-person shooter as first mention in the body.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"are sniper rifle-like weapons with a long range" – recommend "are weapons which resemble a sniper rifle, and have a long range"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Splatoon 3 expands upon this by adding new main and special weapons to the game." – what is the difference between main and special weapons?
Doing... Might be a bit difficult to word concisely but I'll do my best. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Might need to turn it into a separate sentence. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks good as is.

Done MIght need to be reworded but I've done the best I can. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:58, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Inklings and Octolings have the ability to morph into a squid or octopus form respectively. This form is referred to as the "swim form", and can be" – I would combine the first sentence with "and can be" and turn the swim form line into its own sentence so that the abilities purpose is explained first. Seems more relevant this way.
Not sure I would do this, however that would turn "This form is referred to as the the 'swim form'" into an extremely short sentence. Thoughts? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:01, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LunaEatsTuna: Thoughts on this? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I think this looks fine. Short sentences like this to describe what something is called are not uncommon in GAs, but it is optional so I'll trust your judgement here.

Alright then. So Not done. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"In Regular Battles, two teams" – should it not be called Turf War per the previous sentence? Relatedly:
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:02, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Should be singular.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:02, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"The opposing team's ink slows movement," – recommend "When walked on, the opposing team's ink slows movement,"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"if the player is stuck in it." – meaning?
Removed since the change above helps explain what this means. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"with a surface" – should be "with the surface"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence starting "Matches last three minutes, and whichever" is missing a citation.
Removed, the citation is technically the game, however the length of time matches last isn't really all that relevant. If it is relevant I'll try and find a ref. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, not particularly relevant.
"a higher percentage of the field" – recommend "the largest portion of the field".
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"or by transferring data from Splatoon 2," – I would probably make this an efn note.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Remove the quotation marks from Anarchy Battles for consistency with the other game mode names.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"stopping to clear checkpoints along the way" – could checkpoint be wikilinked to somewhere?
Maybe the glossary of video game terms. I'll check to see if it's mentioned there. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"carry the Rainmaker" – what is the rainmaker?
It's technically based on a Shachihoko however I can't find any sources stating this so I'll do my best to describe it. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:42, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Just mentioned that it's a weapon. If more is needed then I can add more. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:46, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good!
"two teams of "attacking" players." – remove the quotation marks.
Done Don't know why these were even in quotes. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"If a player gets splatted" – elaborate.
I don't know how exactly to elaborate on this without getting too wordy. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done... I think. I just added ", the game's version of getting killed," because that is the best way I could describe it. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:22, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks good!
"by inking them" – meaning?
Done by 22090912l, as a note for that user, please refrain from making copyedits like this while the article is currently under a GAN. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, I just thought I'd fix that one as I was the one that made that mistake in the first place. 22090912l (talk) 14:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"The main goal is to collect Golden Eggs, obtained by splatting special enemies known as "Boss Salmonids", and carry them to a basket." – this sentence is more fitting earlier into the paragraph.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"access Salmon Run all the time," – recommend "access Salmon Run at any time,"
Done Originally it read "access Salmon Run 24/7" which I changed because that's not very encyclopedic wording. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"This event is set to occur every few months" – the way this is worded makes it seem like the event as yet to occur.
Done Probably because it hadn't occurred yet when it was added and no one bothered to update the tense. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Setting

"a new location called "Alterna"," – fictional locations do not need quotation marks.
Where does it say that fictional locations don't need quotation marks? I mean, I'll do it anyway, I'm just curious as to why. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LunaEatsTuna: Forgot to ping. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:18, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if Wikipedia has a policy page on this, but I have never seen this used in any GAs or FAs before. It is standard practice not to in all styles of English—fictional place names are treated the same as real-life place names, in that they are proper nouns. Just like the names of fictional characters, no further details (like italics etc.) are required for them; just capitalisations. Generally, only the works themselves (video games, books, films etc.) may have quotation marks in software that does not support italics.
Fair enough. In that case Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"and hazardous Fuzzy Ooze" – explain what Fuzzy Ooze is.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"as Agent 3" – is the player and their pet collectively known as Agent 3?
Done No they are not. Swapped the wording around. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"converting other life into mammals with the Fuzzy Ooze." – recommend "converting other life into mammals by using the Fuzzy Ooze."
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"flying lawnmower-like-device" – rephrase; IMO its resemblance to a lawnmower is not really noteworthy.
Done, changed to "cutting device" since it's not actually the device that flies but Captain 3 (Agent 3 from Splatoon 1). Seems to be some sort of unique "special" they use but that's not clear enough nor relevant enough to include. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"and reach the rocket" – reaching.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence starting "Agent 3 ultimately defeats Mr. Grizz," is a bit jagged.
Not sure what you want me to do here. I suppose I could remove "ultimately" but otherwise it reads just fine to me. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait I see what you mean, you're talking about the entire sentence not just that phrase. Hmm.... I'll see what i Can do. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:25, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, moved some things around and removed "powered by a new rendition of 'Calamari Inkantation'" as that's not really relevant. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Development

SRD and Bandai Namco Studios Singapore & Malaysia are not mentioned anywhere.
Meaning what exactly? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 04:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article mentions the additional work done by Monolith Soft but not SRD or Bandai Namco Studios Singapore & Malaysia, per the efn note.
Done Forgot to mark this one as done. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:41, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"In a Splatoon 3 Direct" – wikilink to Nintendo Direct and unlink its mention in § Marketing and release.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"receive two years of updates" – change to "receive two years worth of updates"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"large-scale paid DLC" – recommend "large-scale paid downloadable content (DLC)" for unfamiliar readers.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Marketing and release

"at a Nintendo Direct" – I believe it should be "in a Nintendo Direct"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"video to YouTube showing" – how about "video to its YouTube channel showing"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"an exact release date." – being?
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"On 22 April 2022" – remove 2022 as it is mentioned in the previous sentence. Do the same with all subsequent date mentions in the section.
Done all except for ones pertaining to a release date as release dates can be mentioned for a year other than the current one.
"Splatfest World Premiere." – what exactly is this?
Done Explained what it is. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"the single-player story mode, the multiplayer lobby, alongside weapons, and multiplayer maps." – should be either "the single-player story mode and the multiplayer lobby, alongside weapons and multiplayer maps." or "the single-player story mode, multiplayer lobby, weapons, and multiplayer maps."
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Could the rock-paper-scissors theme and what Team Rock was/how it worked be expanded upon?
@LunaEatsTuna: There's not really much to expand upon here. Splatfests are explained earlier in the article so explaining here would be redundant. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. I agree.
Unlink downloadable content.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would merge the last three paragraphs into one as they are all quite short.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

"Graeber called 3's" – how about "Graeber called the third instalment's" or something similar.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"reported that Splatoon 3 sold" – change to "reported that Splatoon 3 had sold"
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"increased by 5.5%" – should be "percent" per MOS:%.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

In ref 1, SRD and Bandai Namco Studios Singapore & Malaysia are uncited.
I think they're meant to be sourced to the games credits. I'll have a look at the credits tomorrow to see. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 05:00, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@LunaEatsTuna: Ok I looked at the credits and both SRD and Bandai Namco Studios Singapore & Malaysia are credited there. Should I use some sort of citation template to show this or no? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:39, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've used {{cite video game}} which should be sufficient. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, as long as they are in the credits it should be fine uncited. My main concern came from the fact that you cited Nintendo but not the others.

Refs

Passes spotcheck on refs 5, 8, 11, 22, 34, 50, 65 and 75. Looking at other video game GAs, § Gameplay and § Plot generally do not require citations so those sections are good to go.

The way the publication names are wikilinked is inconsistent. I would recommend wikilinking their first mentions only or wikilinking all mentions.
This and a few other things in here are most likely due to the automatic citation tool being weird. I'll still fix them though. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LunaEatsTuna: Is this still needed for it to pass the GA criteria? If not then I"ll work on it when I have some time. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, it should be fine! Actually, I'll fix these issues myself after this passes.
Is ref 2's name really Wood Wood?
Fixed No clue how that happened.
Given how its the only one, I would remove ref 32's ISSN.
That's because it's the only magazine being cited because Wired is a magazine. Do you still want me to remove it even with this? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:31, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I see! No, keep it—my bad. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 17:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 43 is missing an author.
Fixed ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 44: Eurogamer.net > Eurogamer.
Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Refs 59, 74 and 75 are missing publication dates.
Only ref 75 was missing the publication date. Both 59 and 74 already had them so I don't know why you mentioned them. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Many apologies, that was an error on my part.

Did you add a citation in the interim? Because 60 (probably at that time 59), 75 (probably at that time 74), and 76 (probably at that time 75) are presently missing the publication date. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:50, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Many apologies, that was an error on my part." I'm sorry but what do you mean an error on your part? LunaEatsTuna has been reviewing this and you only just came in. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:52, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, you are correct I did add a citation after this. However I add the publication date to 75. I'll run citationbot to see if it can fix that. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:54, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't write the other comment. It's an unsigned comment left by Luna. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:58, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OH I see now. IT looked like it was part of your comment. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:22, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done 75 and 76. 60 has to wait until I get home later today. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:18, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Some citations for Nintendo Life say Hookshot Media whilst others omit it.
Removed It's unclear whether or not Hookshot Media is the copyright holder or publisher since the Nintendo Life website says they just own the copyright, while Hookshot's website says they're the publisher. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:14, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Other

Short desc, infobox, section formatting, External links, navs, cats and other templates good to go.

Recommend adding WP:ALT text to the images if you can.

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