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Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 06:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Issues:
- Critical reception: "Sparks Fly" received mostly positive reviews from critics → "Sparks Fly" generally received positive reviews from music critics. Link "music critics" to Music journalism Done
References: Ref. 2 - Don't think YouTube is good sourceNot done Video is from Swift's official YouTube so it is reliable.- References: Ref. 10 - Remove "/ E!" part Done
- References: Ref. 43 - Don't think YouTube is good source Done
Good work. On hold. TBrandley 06:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- No other sources to show the information so YouTube has to be used so yes it is a good source so we will ignore the reference two and 43 remark. The others I will work on fixing right now. Thanks. Swifty*talk 12:24, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately YouTube is only reliable when citing the Vevo videos, or an official channel (eg. ABCNews). Videos uploaded by regular users should generally be avoided. Till 12:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- One is by Swift herself from her official YouTube the other one 43 is the only one we can find and is proof of the leak of the song onto the internet prior to it's official release on Speak Now. How else can we source it and give accurate information on the performance? If you got a good suggestion that would be great but reference two stays as it is an interview and was not uploaded by a regular user. Swifty*talk 12:52, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- My apology. I didn't realise ref. #2 was by Taylor Swift herself. So I guess that's relatively reliable. Regarding the other, it's not that you can't use Youtube videos as sources, they should just generally be avoided since they're not considered reliable. This has been extensively discussed at WP:RSN. But it's your choice here so don't worry about it. Till 12:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- How what I posted now? Swifty*talk 12:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- What? Till 13:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- "Recordings of the performance can be found on YouTube by looking up "Sparks Fly Live 2007" or "Sparks Fly Original Performance"." Ref 43. Swifty*talk 13:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just a question: was the live performance on a tour? An award show? Where and when did she play it. Till 13:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- That is mentioned above in the Background and release section Swift "performed the song live during several bar shows "of forty and fifty people"." Bit redundant to mention that twice don't you think? LOL! Swifty*talk 13:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well I didn't read the whole article Lol. Just the live performances. Anyways, I found a source. [1] It's from About.com, a lot more reliable than Youtube. Replace the Youtube thing with this. Till 13:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! Swifty*talk 13:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Did I do the source right? Swifty*talk 13:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not really. The |work= field is About.com, while the |publisher= is The New York Times Company. Then it will be fine. Till 13:34, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed that and already fixed it, I figured that was wrong. Swifty*talk 13:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Okay it's all good now. Till 13:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed that and already fixed it, I figured that was wrong. Swifty*talk 13:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not really. The |work= field is About.com, while the |publisher= is The New York Times Company. Then it will be fine. Till 13:34, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Did I do the source right? Swifty*talk 13:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! Swifty*talk 13:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well I didn't read the whole article Lol. Just the live performances. Anyways, I found a source. [1] It's from About.com, a lot more reliable than Youtube. Replace the Youtube thing with this. Till 13:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- That is mentioned above in the Background and release section Swift "performed the song live during several bar shows "of forty and fifty people"." Bit redundant to mention that twice don't you think? LOL! Swifty*talk 13:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just a question: was the live performance on a tour? An award show? Where and when did she play it. Till 13:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- "Recordings of the performance can be found on YouTube by looking up "Sparks Fly Live 2007" or "Sparks Fly Original Performance"." Ref 43. Swifty*talk 13:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- What? Till 13:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- How what I posted now? Swifty*talk 12:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- My apology. I didn't realise ref. #2 was by Taylor Swift herself. So I guess that's relatively reliable. Regarding the other, it's not that you can't use Youtube videos as sources, they should just generally be avoided since they're not considered reliable. This has been extensively discussed at WP:RSN. But it's your choice here so don't worry about it. Till 12:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- One is by Swift herself from her official YouTube the other one 43 is the only one we can find and is proof of the leak of the song onto the internet prior to it's official release on Speak Now. How else can we source it and give accurate information on the performance? If you got a good suggestion that would be great but reference two stays as it is an interview and was not uploaded by a regular user. Swifty*talk 12:52, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately YouTube is only reliable when citing the Vevo videos, or an official channel (eg. ABCNews). Videos uploaded by regular users should generally be avoided. Till 12:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Although I'm not the reviewer, here are some good-faith observations:
- There are some inconsistencies with 2000-01-01 and January 1, 2000. You must choose one or the other. Not done That just seems picky to me but I will live it up to Status to decide.
- Ref. #23 --> work is just Billboard, not Billboard.biz. Done
- The nick.com publishers are --> Nickelodeon. Viacom International Inc. Done
- I don't know what's going on with ref. #46. Done
- Ref. #47 --> the "| Music Reviews and News" bit isn't needed. Done
- Ref. #50 --> Taste of Country, not TasteofCountry.com, and publisher is Townsquare Media Done
- Ref. #53 --> Allaccess appears twice Done
- Refn. #56 --> same as above, the billboard.biz, and why is the author in italics? Also needs the date. Done
- Refs. #58-60 need access dates Done
- That's all :) Till 13:50, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Home, I believe I've fixed all the date issues. Put them all as January 1, 2000. Statυs (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Okay everything's fixed. Till 06:43, 29 June 2012 (UTC)