Talk:Savings banks in Norway

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On 5 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sparebank to Savings banks in Norway. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 5 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph (talk) 12:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sparebank → Savings banks in Norway – Just as we have Architecture of Italy and not Architettura, I don't see any reason to have an article on Norwegian savings banks listed under the Norwegian word for "savings bank". The article doesn't even use the term after the second sentence, other than in one name that includes it, it refers consistently to "savings banks". Instead of moving it myself, I've treated this as a potentially controversial for one reason: the first sentence suggests that this may be a particular kind of savings bank that exists in Norway distinct from other savings banks that also exist there. But as the remainder of the article addresses "savings banks", it appears to be about all of them, not just a subset of them, hence this proposal. Still, because of that small doubt that the first sentence created for me, I'm posting this move proposal for input from others. Largoplazo (talk) 09:58, 5 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:45, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. As far as I can tell from this article, Banking in Norway and google translate versions of the Nynorsk and Bokmal articles the distinction being made is between savings bank and commercial bank not between two types of savings bank. Thryduulf (talk) 10:12, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the category is Category:Mutual savings banks in Norway. It seems the distinction in English between Mutual savings bank and Savings bank does not map to the Norwegian, which is a good reason to keep the Norwegian name. jnestorius^(talk) 17:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't a matter of mapping, it just means that all savings banks in Norway are mutual savings banks. (Mutual savings banks and savings banks aren't mutually exclusive, the former is a subset of the latter.) Anyway, if your argument were to prevail, then the outcome would be to move this article to Mutual savings banks in Norway, not to leave it under the Norwegian word. Largoplazo (talk) 18:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
the former is a subset of the latter^{[citation needed]} neither of the Wikipedia articles' text, nor their respective categorization, supports this assertion. jnestorius^(talk) 09:34, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The text of those articles doesn't contradict it, and the ordinary meaning of "mutual" in front of the name of a type of financial institution X is "an X that's owned by its customers". A mutual insurance company, for example, is an insurance company owned by its policyholders. And I draw your attention again to the following facts:
The very first sentence of this article is "Sparebank is a Norwegian savings bank without external owners." So, it's a savings bank. A savings bank without external owners which, as I said above, is what "mutual savings bank" means, but, yes, a savings bank.

After the second sentence this article refers to its own subject exclusively as "savings banks". Each such reference further reenforces the conclusion that they are savings banks.

Regarding the categorization, an article's content drives its categories, the categories don't drive the content or the title. Largoplazo (talk) 10:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Norway has been notified of this discussion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:45, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I find the arguments of the nominator convincing. Firstly, WP:USEENGLISH. Secondly, I agree it is clear that mutual savings banks are a subset of savings banks. Jenks24 (talk) 09:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.