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The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
It seems odd to me to have an article that is basically about the Almohad period in Spain under this title. Does academic historiography speak of a "Christian–Muslim War of 1172–1212"? Srnec (talk) 15:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fernández-Morera, Darío (2023). El mito del paraíso andalusí (in Spanish).
I know the Almohads were fighting other Christian kingdoms before 1172, like in the Siege of Badajoz (1169), but it was not a conflict that involved enough Christian kingdoms (only 1) and it was part of another war (in this case, the Luso-Leonese War (1167-1169)).
We can consider a Muslim Moroccan victory until 1197 (first phase) because they won the Almohad-Portuguese War in 1190 and the Almohad-Castile War from 1195 to 1197, making León and Navarre their vassals. However, the second phase represents a Christian Iberian victory, not a Spanish victory, as these were two separate wars. tahanido (talk) 15:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The final result of the war is a Spanish Christian victory, there were "2 phases" but the article says the "first phase" ended with a truce and not a peace treaty. The reason why it's a Spanish and not an Iberian victory is explained at the start of the article. RobertJohnson35 (talk) 14:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the aftermath of the victorious Almohad campaign against the Christian kingdoms of Iberia,In the historical context of the Maghreb, the term 'truce' (or 'hudna' in Arabic) can often be used to refer to a formal peace agreemen that was signed in 1197. This treaty marked the formal cessation of hostilities between the Almohad Empire and the Christian states. Despite the treaty’s provisions for peace, it did not alter the fact that the Almohads had achieved a decisive victory in the first phase of the conflict. The treaty primarily served to formalize the cessation of hostilities and to solidify the territorial gains secured by the Almohads during their successful military campaign. Almohad campaign against Castille (1196-1197) - Wikipedia Tahanido (talk) 21:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are also Spanish and English sources that say it was a truce, not just Arab sources. Please read the definitions of truce and peace treaty. If a source said "truce" and they meant "peace treaty", that is their problem as they are different words with different meanings. The sources say it was a truce of 5 years (other sources say 10 years), which does not match the definition of peace treaty. I added 9 sources in the article and I can also give you examples of truces and peace treaties in the same war and show you how they are not the same. RobertJohnson35 (talk) 21:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the context of the Maghreb, a truce and a peace treaty essentially meant the same thing in the almohade reign like almarakushi means in his book . The states in the Maghreb did not typically sign formal peace treaties at the end of wars. Instead, they often agreed on truces, which were temporary halts in fighting, but these truces served a similar purpose to what would be considered a peace treaty in other contexts. almohades did peace treaties just for commerce no more wth christian spanish kingdoms :https://www.persee.fr/doc/bec_0373-6237_1866_num_27_1_446065 .
For example, after the war in 1211-1212, there was only a truce, not a formal peace treaty. just give me the name of the treaty after the battle of los navas de tolossa i can give you more other examples.
Not every peace treaty has a name (like the peace treaty of the Spanish–Algerian War). I don't have the page of the first book you cited, I cited 9 sources[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] in the main article (you cited 1) that say it was a truce and 3 books in the other topic that say the war lasted from 1172 to 1212. A peace treaty does not have an expiration date unless it is a truce, I remind you that a truce is a type of peace treaty that just suspends hostilities in a war but does not end it.
Some examples of truces and peace treaties in wars are:
The 2023 Israel–Hamas ceasefire (truce), during the Israel-Hamas War. It did not end yet but as you already saw the truce just suspended hostilities temporarily and did not end the war.
In the context of the Moroccan dynasties that governed Al-Andalus, truces and peace treaties were often considered equivalent, Almohades signed peace treaties just for commerce. The examples you provided—such as the Twelve Years' Truce and the Peace of Münster from the Eighty Years' War, the 2023 Israel–Hamas ceasefire, and the Christmas Truce and Treaty of Versailles from World War I—are from more recent periods and do not directly reflect practices during the Almohad period. For the Almohad era, there is no well-documented peace treaty with a distinct name before 1213. Instead, the historical records from that time primarily indicate the use of truces to manage conflicts.just send me the whole peace treaty after the battle of los navas de tolosa pls. Tahanido (talk) 12:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some sources that talk about a peace treaty with the Almohads after the battle of Las Navas de Tolosa:
Sorry, but if it has been concluded that Évora was not captured, then it was not. If it is still being discussed, wait for the discussion to end and if it is concluded that it happened, you can add it again. RobertJohnson35 (talk) 15:11, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You would be right if it weren't for the fact that the Almohad conquest of Evora (1191) has been deleted, it was concluded that it did not happen and therefore it was deleted. If it is still being discussed, please say where the discussion is taking place and I will remove that it was controlled by Portugal. RobertJohnson35 (talk) 08:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RobertJohnson35 The article about the Almohad conquest of Évora in 1191 has been deleted, Simply because there were personal biases of the people who did that, even though I gave more than six sources from the 19-20-21 centuries.
The article has 7 citations and given the results of the discussions, it will remain as it is until it is concluded that Evora was captured. But please do not change the article until it is concluded. Thanks RobertJohnson35 (talk) 10:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
