Talk:Soldier's Creed

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To summarize my changes:

Redirected "Warrior Ethos" to "US Soldier's Creed"; merged the two articles to reduce confusion.
Removed "entitled the 'Warrior Ethos'" - It is entitled the US Soldier's Creed. The "Warrior Ethos" is contained in the Creed.
Removed the "dog-tag" reference - unnecessary; trite. It is now an external link.
Moved "controversial" remark to end of paragraph, referenced cited article. Should this even be here?
Formatted the second stanza (Warrior Ethos) in similar fashion to the way it is primarily displayed.
Added merged "Warrior Ethos" copy.
Added a reference to age of previous version.

I do not know what the Washington Post reference references.

I removed the quote saying "Soldier are no longer allowed to yell "Hooah!" it is inaccurate due to the fact that we are encouraged to do just that. 214.13.162.2 11:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC) Ski 20070724[reply]

The "Hooah conclusion".

Actually, I would disagree with that because as a recent graduate of AIT. We, had various persons from different Basic Training locations that converged for our daily reiteration of the creed. I will say that at my Basic Training company, the instructors would tell us theres "No Hooah" . Though with the influx of soldiers from Fort Benning they were encouraged to say Hooah, as even the majority of the instructors at my AIT told us there is no "Hooah" in The Soldiers Creed, though the defiant soldiers would usually do so out of respect for the way THEIR Drill Sergeants had taught them. I think this also happened with soldiers from Fort Knox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.233.179 (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This Is Not The Same Creed The Army Has Used For Most Of The Twentieth Century

Apparently, this creed has undergone revisions in the fairly recent past. However, the past wordings of The Creed appear difficult to find. As there are soldiers still alive from those times, quoting the older versions of The Creed shouldn't be difficult and it would be useful for us to see how our country has chosen to change The Creed over time. Barkmoss (talk) 19:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original Soldier's Code

National Affairs: SOLDIER'S CODE Monday, Aug. 29, 1955 ix precepts of conduct for U.S. combatants, as enunciated last week by President Eisenhower:

1) I am an American fighting man. I serve in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

2) I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender my men while they still have the means to resist.

3) If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.

4) If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me, and will back them up in every way.

5) When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am bound to give only name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies, or harmful to their cause.

6) I will never forget that I am an American fighting man, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

Yet Another Version of the Soldier's Creed/Code

The post preceding mine, "The Original Soldier's Code" is actually the Code of Conduct outlining your responsibilities for when captured by the enemy.

As far as the use of "Hooah," that varies widely from one unit to the next and from one job specialty to the next. Some of us "Chairborne Rangers" were not as "Hooah" as many.

Additionally, I memorized yet another version of the Soldier's Creed as a US Army trainee. I am not fond of the new Warrior's Creed because it does not acknowledge the fact that there is a limit to everyone's mental toughness, and that almost contradicts the POW Code of Conduct, and could prove a block to some Soldiers seeking out mental health help when needed. There is no dishonor in surrendering when you literally no longer have the means to resist, whether that's an enemy assault or torture or even the ravages of PTSD. The new creed also does not emphasize enough honorable behavior (singularly important after Abu Ghraib and recent allegations of Marines urinating on dead enemy fighters.) Here's the version I memorized:

"The Soldier's Code I am an American soldier - a protector of the greatest nation on earth - sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States. I will treat others with dignity and respect and expect others to do the same. I will honor my Country, the Army, my unit and my fellow soldiers by living the Army Values. No matter what situation I am in, I will never do anything for pleasure, profit, or personal safety which will disgrace my uniform, my unit, or my Country. Lastly, I am proud of my Country and its flag. I want to look back and say that I am proud to have served my Country as a soldier."

BeanDragon (talk) 02:32, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Pre-03

When was the pre-2003 version introduced? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 11:24, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]