Talk:Social networking service/Archives/2016

Revisionism

This seems to me to be a sublimely exceptional article but not for what it says. The most striking thing about it is its coverage of Facebook:

Facebook, launched in 2004, became the largest social networking site in the 
world in early 2009. Facebook was first introduced (in 2004) as a Harvard social 
networking site, expanding to other universities and eventually, anyone. The term 
social media was introduced and soon became widespread.

For the avoidance of doubt I loathe Facebook but I wouldn't downplay its paradigm shifting impact. The article though, while citing the "recent attempt to define" a social network as a Web 2.0 (min) technology, the history section here seems to bend over backwards to re-engineer history. We are encouraged to imagine that social networks are nothing new, that listservs were actually pretty much the same thing really. For me, the merge proposal above is just the cherry on this particular cake, suggesting that social networks are nothing more than a mashup of existing "social" media (as opposed to those "memo to self" media gems from the 60's). Nothing new folks. Move along. Seriously?! LookingGlass (talk) 16:52, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

merge to social media

There are 22 instances of "social media" in the article about "Social networking service", most -- all? -- of them taken as synonyms. Fgnievinski (talk) 03:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I'd be willing to help merge. Social networking service seems like it might be slightly better organized, as a way to start. valereee (talk) 13:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Fgnievinski and Valereee: Support: proposed merger would conform to policy. FeatherPluma (talk) 03:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Support. The existing title is rather contrived and is clearly designed to distinguish it from "Social Network" which has a far broader connotation. But the old trick of doing a Google quoted search shows 597m instances of "social media" against 126m for "social network" and a paltry 497,000 for "social networking service". I've never seen a 1,000 to 1 contrast before. A related measure might be that there is only one mention of the longer term in the references for this page but at least 60 for social media on that page. But it will certainly take some work and needs to be done deliberately. Chris55 (talk) 18:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

As a PS, one might ask why there are two similar articles with different names. Are they about the same thing? Looking at the OED, the term "Social media" was first used in 2004 whereas "social networking" was known since 1973. The SNS article was started in 2005 and the SM article in 2006. With hindsight it is obvious which term has won. Chris55 (talk) 19:04, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

REJECT Agglomerating different internet media exchange systems under one vague heading serves no useful prupose. The emergence of social network sites/services is a step-change in online sharing and deserves to be documented independently of what are now "satellite" sites. Besides this I cannot imagine a definition of a social medium that does not include virtually all media (virtual and real). The merge seems to be a project for the project's sake rather than to improve wiki's content or accessibility. Following these merge proposals leads steadily to the mergeing of ALL wiki articles into one. Think of an article as a chapter in a book. Ther is actually no benefit to having bigger and bigger chapters but a great deal of benefit to having a hierarchy of information i.e in more levels and chapters as more information is amassed (detailed and summarised). LookingGlass (talk) 16:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

ps in quick response to the difference between SN and SN service, I suggest that the former is the theoretical construct/discipline concerned with all social systems of every kind while the latter is a technological implementation/creation of a particular social network. LookingGlass (talk) 16:33, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

pss I would support a merge of Distributed social network with this article both as the former is particular method of providing a social network service and as it is short enough not to create any bloat. LookingGlass (talk) 16:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Oppose: SNS is a moderately well-organised and understandable article. Why lose that in a merge with the rambling shambles that social media is right now? That article needs a comprehensive "3R": review, restructure and rewrite. If I knew more about the topic, I;d have a go, but there must be better-qualified Wikipedians than I to take it on. However, I could lend a hand to anybody willing to take on such a project. yoyo (talk) 07:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

social media

Social media can be defined as “the media that allows one to be social, or get social online by sharing content, news and photos with other people — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gracememe (talk • contribs) 16:59, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I have ply blue whale Biki thangjam (talk) 02:57, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

That is true but what is also true is that kids find things that are much bigger for their age on social media. Marshall Leezy (talk) 09:46, 1 September 2020 (UTC)