Talk:Snow Halation

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by the idol group μ's has an anime music video? Source: #19)
  • ALT 1: ... that Sunrise animated a music video for the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by μ's for the idol franchise Love Live!?
  • ALT 2: ... that the music video for the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by μ's is animated?
  • ALT 3: ... that the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by μ's has a music video animated by Sunrise?

• Reviewed: Bad Rats

Created by Juhachi (talk). Self-nominated at 01:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC).

• First comment on a DYK nomination. Anyway, I mostly support this nomination, but I have a few comments/questions, which may be taken with some grains of salt:
  • I think "Japanese pop" should be entirely linked to J-pop, since I imagine that people expect "pop" to link to pop music.
  • The text "idol group μ's" should probably be altered as there are two adjacent links to be part of the same text (see MOS:SEAOFBLUE).
  • Is there a better way to quickly write "music video in anime format"? Aside from the aforementioned sea of blue problem, anime music video is a term with a different meaning in anime fandom jargon.
  • Article-wise, the song sample may need to be trimmed per WP:SAMPLE, unless there's a good reason why it's above 30 seconds (though I imagine SiIvaGunner may have already crossed that line).

Todokete indeed. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 22:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. As an alternative hook for your first three bullet points:

• ALT 1: ... that Sunrise animated a music video for the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by μ's for the idol franchise Love Live!?

And for the music sample, I had merely included the entire chorus, but I will shorten it to below 26 seconds, 10% of the length of the song.--十八 03:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome, and that works. Support ALT 1. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 00:54, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Brainulator9: Thank you. Please place either {{DYKtick}} or {{DYKtickAGF}} so the nomination can be promoted.--十八 03:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Gotcha. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 03:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Brainulator9: As far as I can tell a full review for the nomination has yet to be done. Could you please check if all of the DYK criteria are met? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:03, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Brainulator9: Reping due to a typo in the previous edit. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: If you believe the review was incomplete, then please conduct another review.--十八 11:37, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Juhachi: Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. The hook facts are cited inline, and although cited to an offline source, are easily verifiable on any online source discussing the franchise. A QPQ has been done, and no close paraphrasing issues were found. My only concern is that ALT1 reads a little awkwardly and could be rephrased to be a little snappier: perhaps move the mention of SnowHala to the start of the hook? Otherwise a pretty harasho article and nomination. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:48, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

About all I can do with the hook without it basically being the original one again is

• • ALT 2: ... that the music video for the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by μ's is animated?

--十八 12:22, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I think the original hook is actually fine, if anything it should raise some interest since I presume "anime music video" is not something that most readers would find typical. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 13:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, then we'll go with the original hook.--十八 01:14, 11 January 2021 (UTC) On second thought, considering the original objections to the first hook, I'll give another alternative of it:

• • • • ALT 3: ... that the Japanese pop song "Snow Halation" by μ's has a music video animated by Sunrise?

--十八 01:22, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, we should be good to go with ALT3. I personally preferred the original hook (since I don't know if non-anime fans would recognize Sunrise) but I understand the original concerns. Courtesy ping to Brainulator9. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:49, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Siivagunner

Hello! Today, I made an edit referring to the use of the song by the Siivagunner YouTube channel. It was taken off (reasonable, the reversion is fair), but it’s still important to the legacy of the song. How would you go about making mention of Siivagunner while still making sure to cite correctly? Thewatercooler (talk) 22:14, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

If it can't be cited with a reliable third party source, I would not include it at all. If it's noteworthy enough, a third party source presumably would have mentioned it somewhere. But a cursory Google search doesn't show anything beyond wikis, blogs, or other unreliable sources of the 40 or so links that turn up, which is not exactly something I would say gives credence to its importance for inclusion.--十八 22:53, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I guess that’s fair. Sorry to bother! Thewatercooler (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)