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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Lily1004, Jerryshen.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Importance rating

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This is a UK Biodiversity Action Plan (2007) species—GRM 15:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

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Hey so I thought this was a great article, but I found a couple sentences that were never elaborated upon and did not make sense, so I took those out. I also fixed minor formatting errors and added some links. It would also be great if you could look back at the parts that say there needs to be a citation added and to put those in as soon as possible, before they get deleted. Also the last few sentences of your "Food plant and eggs" section doesn't really make sense. I was confused as to what you were talking about or what you were referring to. Do the eggs prefer damp areas? the plants? Otherwise great job! Lily1004 (talk) 04:22, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review

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Hi, I am peer-reviewing this article for Behavioral Ecology as well. I thought your article was quite informative! I learned quite a lot about the butterfly's conservation issues due to sibling mating issues and habitat destruction.

However, some of your information is not provided by the cited sources or required cited sources, such as the butterfly being present in Asia. If you could add citations to those statements, that would be great! I reorganized the sentences in the distribution section to flow from one topic to the next better. I'm a little confused as to what "through Asia to Korea" entails, so if that was made more clear that would be helpful. I also combined the "Food plant and eggs" and "Typical nectar food plants for adult" sections under "Food Resources," since both are discussing food resources for the species. However, I'm not entirely sure what "They" refers to in "Food plant and eggs". Is it the eggs? From how it is written, it looks like it is all referring to the food plants.

In your Conservation section, I changed the citations to refer the correct article that described fragmented area protection. I am also unsure how significant the Iowa study is for the conservation of this butterfly specifically, as the study looked at collections of numerous species of butterflies in the wild after 33 years, and the numbers only dropped from 5 to 1 for this particular species.The study itself mentions that there is no clear-cut way of telling species presence through collection and focuses more on diversity in general rather than the small pearl-bordered fritillary, so I removed the sentence using this article and stating that this was an 80% loss of the butterfly in the region. I also made some minor grammar fixes throughout the article and added some internal links to other Wikipedia articles for clarification. jerryshen (talk) 20:33, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's clear you have done extensive writing and research on this topic. However, your article would benefit most from spreading out the content into different sections to improve readability. Choose how you want to do this. I added a section with citation on the adult life cycle. Feel free to check the source and add more as you wish. Generally, your writing can be more direct. It is stronger and more credible when you write declaratively instead of relying too much on statements like "this indicates" or "seems to." It doesn't happen excessively, but it is something you may want to review. Lastly, the section on conservation where you describe "a study in Germany" could be truncated. Try not to summarize the specifics of what the paper did explicitly. Cheers. Ecampell22 (talk) 04:25, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your article is really informative and you did a good job. There were some grammatical errors that I fixed. I also added a subsection, Pupa because there was no information stated about that stage. Though your article was good, I think that there could be more information added about the butterfly. however, I understand if there is limited knowledge and research done on the butterfly. WAdekunle (talk) 01:53, 5 Novemeber 2017 (UTC)

Subspecies are not automatically notable UtherSRG (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is there to merge? There is a reference in the subspecies article that says that New World Boloria myrina has been split from Old World Boloria selene. Would included that in the merge? It looks like sources are favoring the split, in which case Boloria myrina needs an article, and this article needs a rewrite to exclude the New World from it's range. I'd support a merge of the subspecies, but I think it needs to be merged to Boloria myrina. Plantdrew (talk) 21:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was a little hesitant about making this merge request, but I figured to go ahead as it's a good way to start the discussion. I had some similar thoughts about merging to B. myrina... but that article doesn't exist. And though I'm fine with writing stubs so that others can swarm onto it after to improve, I think this needs a little more attention. Hey @Dyanega:... you tracking here? - UtherSRG (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Part of the confustion is that silver-bordered fritillary, which should be B. myrina, redirects here. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Odd though it may sound, I usually steer clear of butterfly taxonomy, as it has a tendency to be very contentious and tumultuous. Probably among the most unstable classifications within zoology, and this case is an example. It does look, from the more reliable sources, like the separation of myrina and selene is accepted (as are many other North America vs. Old World taxon splits), and it's pretty subjective as to whether they differ at the level of subspecies or species. The idea to give myrina its own article seems like the best approach, though it will definitely necessitate a significant rewrite of the selene article. It's a little hard to see how the various existing articles and redirects are all connected, but if there's any merging to be done, it might be desirable to merge the Dark-bordered Fritillary article into Silver-bordered fritillary after the latter is turned into the primary article for myrina, instead of a redirect to selene. As an aside, I'll note that for bumblebees, the trend is exactly the opposite; whenever barcode data show that a New World and Old World bumblebee are closely-related, they are lumping the New World species into the Old World species, and eliminating all subspecies arbitrarily. The age-old contrast between lumpers and splitters is still pretty stark, even now. Dyanega (talk) 17:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]