Talk:Skylla and Charybdis (Waterhouse)

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Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) This user has declared a connection. (that she has been a personal friend of Graham Waterhouse.)

I wrote the article, it's my choice

Enough said. – SchroCat (talk) 19:26, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Engvar, ref style, infobox yes or no etc are editorial choices. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whether to have an IB is now an editorial choice? I must remember to raise that a the several articles where POV pushers say otherwise and throw OWNership accusations around. – SchroCat (talk) 06:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a source

How do we get a source for what a composer writes about his composition, better than what the composer writes about his composition? (It's copied in program notes for concerts, but that is not online. Compare the DYK discussion for Wilhelm Killmayer with Drmies. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A source does not have to be online to be used. A self-published source is always going to raise questions, particularly if there is a COI with the website owner writing the article that carries the same claims as the website. – SchroCat (talk) 06:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It also makes me wonder why the information is in that site: is Waterhouse a client of the organisation that runs it, or is it being used as a fansite? – SchroCat (talk) 09:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda Arendt, These questions do need to be answered please. – SchroCat (talk) 07:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I know Graham Waterhouse, as many other composers. There is no money involved, I edit Wikipedia, and help with his website (basically only taking what he writes and helping with the translations to German), for the love of music. His article was my first, filling a red link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So this needs to have a COI tag on it. There is a lot of very close paraphrasing between that site and this article, which is a concern. – SchroCat (talk) 09:48, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Scylla & Charybdis

It bears mentioning that S & C are also monumental hazards in the ocean, named after the mythic monsters, and lending sense to the maelstrom theme of the music. I have neither heard the music nor seen the hazards (or do they only exist in Homer's tale? What do I know?) I just feel that some (many?) readers won't understand the allusion unless it is explained to them. rags (talk) 00:45, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's a link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]