Talk:Sisters Olive Trees of Noah

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An editor removed the following ref: <ref name=GP>{{cite web |url=http://www.greenprophet.com/2013/01/noah-olive-trees-lebanon/ |title=The World’s Oldest Living Olive Trees Are Lebanese |author=Linda Pappagallo |date=January 8, 2013 |work=Green Prophet |accessdate=April 28, 2013}}</ref> and I'm disputing that or at least questioning that. The edit summary was "Remove a non RS cite that is just pure boosterism",

Green Prophet is a Canadian magazine (online only) run by Karin Kloosterman; she has a Wikipedia article so she's not just a random blogger, and they appear to have some kind of staff and some production values and so forth. It's not the Economist but it's not just some random person's blog either. It's somewhere in between. Probably not very reliable.

But the material cited is a fairly straightforward statement of fact: "The Sisters or The Sisters Olive Trees of Noah are a grove of sixteen olive trees in the Lebanese town of Bcheale".

It's not the sort of thing that Green Prophet would make up, I don't think; I don't see why they would. It is something that they could get wrong though. They're probably not very reliable. Doesn't sound like boosterism to me though.

I think that the material is true (the Sisters Olive Trees of Noah are a grove of sixteen olive trees, and they are in the Lebanese town of Bcheale). I have a cite for more specific info in Carol Drinkwater's book (The Olive Tree) which probably also verifies the existence and location and probably the number, but I don't have a copy handy,

If the trees don't exist we have a problem and there's some sort of hoax going on; if they are a number other than 16, or if they are in a town other than Bcheale, that's still a problem, but fixable. The Sisters Olive Tree company says the trees are located in "Bechealeh", which I assume is the the same town with a different spelling. There's no reason for them to lie about that and it would be foolish to do so, and if they have the location wrong they'd have to be preternaturally incompetent. So I'm pretty confident of the location. They don't give a number for the trees, though,

Here's another article, again probably not very reliable. There's other peripheral sources floating around.

Anyway I restored the citation subject to discussion Herostratus (talk) 03:37, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is video by a Lebanese vlogger showing the trees:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWfmFrn0yms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.35.250 (talk) 09:05, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have several photos I took in 2018

If someone could give me the rundown for the photo requirements and the way to go about getting them in the proper place if they qualify so that there can be a good media source along with the article? I took the pictures October 8 2018 just before 2pm local time while I was in Bchaaleh for the purpose of seeing them. Somehow despite traveling through the country there almost yearly for the last 25 years, the existence of these trees had completely eluded me until by pure luck I happened upon a pretty scant description from a random "top 10 list" on the town…I also have a photograph of the plaque/marker that was put in place identifying the grove of trees and thankfully I had a portable hotspot for a change so the marked location should be easy enough to nail down as well. -and wow after a very long wait I am just finding apparently we finally have access to quality satellite imaging of Lebanon-…

https://imgur.com/gallery/I1P8QvN

Ramahamalincoln (talk) 03:46, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]