Talk:SimplexGrinnell

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Too Many Model Numbers

After reading over the "Simplex Time Recorder Company" section of this article, I have realized that it may be too overly-detailed and technical for most readers, as it contains a great deal of model numbers. Most of this information is also unverified and may be original research. This section also focuses highly on Simplex's notification appliances and pull stations, but lacks information on their fire alarm control panels and other products. Subsequently, I have placed a cleanup tag on the section and will be working to streamline the information and provide a more general scope. Destin (talk) 14:00, 1 January 2010 (UTC) x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.146.26 (talk) 19:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about the timeclock?

As a former employee of Simplex, it is well known within the company that Simplex developed and marketed the first practical timeclock. This article mentions the purchase of IBM time division but utterly fails to mention why such an aquisition would be made because there is no mention of what simplex did prior to merger with Grinnell. The article also does not mention that as part of the IBM merger, simplex was basically forced to purchase IBMs fire division as a condition of the time division sale. This is how Simplex actually started in the fire/life safety business which utimatly led to Simplex being aquired by Grinnell via Tyco International. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.31.184.166 (talk) 13:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

If you have information about this that can be properly cited, then by all means... start writing! Anyone can edit Wikipedia, after all. I'd also recommend that you get a username, too... SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adding further to the above comments

Also a former Simplex Employee, here is some more Simplex history for integration by a more talented writer than myself - Simplex purchased IBMs time division to increase it's market presence and product line with Simplex continuing many of the IBM timeclocks under the Simplex label well into the 1960s. Before purchasing IBMs time division, Simplex was only a timeclock company. As part of the agreement to purchase the time division from IBM, Simplex also agreed to purchase the fire and safety division (this was a bundle because IBM wanted to offload both divisions). This is what started Simplex down the path as a fire alarm company. By the late 1970s, Simplex was losing market share in the timeclock market but had grown the fire division to the point that fire alarms became the major division and profit center of the company. After merger with Grinnell, the automated time and attendance (software) part of the timeclock division was sold to Kronos, Inc. but Simplex-Grinnell continues to produce and market non-automated electro-mechanical and electronic timeclocks but these clocks are primarily manufactured by other companies under the Simplex label. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.31.184.166 (talk) 18:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]