Talk:Simon Tolkien

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Notability

"My dad was/is famous and I've written a book that nobody read"= Notable? Just asking.Greg Locock (talk) 06:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merged to Tolkien family. Carcharoth (talk) 07:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Retaliation" claim

Untrue, and in fact Simon has never made it; it was 'invented' by an imaginative reporter. Simon Tolkien never was an "estate trustee" or member of the Tolkien Company board; he was bitter over this, but he could never have been removed, in retaliation or otherwise. Solicitr (talk) 21:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Until 1999 the company had just one director, Christopher Tolkien. But as he entered his mid-70s (he is now 77), plans had to be made for running the company after his death. So new board members were required. Simon's stepmother, Baillie - Christopher's second wife - was appointed, as was his cousin Michael. Simon, however, was not.
"Why should I be excluded from the board of my grandfather's company when my stepmother is on it?"

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A statement from Christopher Tolkien through his lawyers said, inter alia,

There was no dispute between Christopher Tolkien and his son, Simon Tolkien, as a result of Simon Tolkien going to see the first Lord of the Rings film.

Simon Tolkien was never on the Board of any Tolkien company and was not 'removed' from any such position by Christopher Tolkien.

Nor has Christopher Tolkien 'disowned' Simon Tolkien.

Solicitr (talk) 03:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even the source you cite above claims Simon Tolkien was a trustee: "These relate to the family trust, of which Simon is a trustee." You secomd claim is uncited. I'm restoring the line, as your argument is unconvincing. MikeWazowski (talk) 04:26, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simon remains a trustee of the Tolkien Discretionary Settlement- a position from which he has never been removed. His complaint, however, was that he was never offered a seat on the board of the Tolkien Company, the umbrella organization which controls the family's literary properties. Rewriting. Solicitr (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MikeWazowski: You really want to start a revert war to perpetuate a falsehood? Fine. Bring it on. Solicitr (talk) 12:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, seeing as how the text I'm restoring is based on a valid source, while your is based on personal opinion nd a questionable link that doesn't exist, I'll say that I'm on firmer ground here. Your personal opinions are not a reliable source, and unless you can come up with valid sources that actually exist (since this link you posted does not), I will continue to remove any unsupported information. MikeWazowski (talk) 04:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, My edits are based on primary sources, Simon's actual interviews, whereas yours is a secondary (and erroneous) source, reflecting nothing more than the opinion (or misinterpretation) of a Boston Globe reporter. Simon Tolkien was never on the board of the Tolkien Company. That's fact, not opinion. Although I have opinions about Simon Tolkien, I haven't expressed any of them here.

Incidentally, I repaired the dead link you make so much hay about. Why do you insist on trying to deny reality? Solicitr (talk) 14:31, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]