Talk:Siege of Valenciennes (1566–1567)

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No Motley, please

As described in Historiography of the Eighty Years' War#The Rise of the Dutch Republic by Motley/Bakhuizen and stated in Talk:Trial of Oldenbarnevelt, Grotius and Hogerbeets#Improvements needed, the works of John Lothrop Motley should be regarded as unreliable, biased and outdated. I have therefore rewritten this entire article and its Dutch equivalent nl:Beleg van Valencijn (1567) (which I myself wrote in 2008, also largely based on Motley before I knew how unreliable his work was) based on better, modern, more objective sources. There is no reason/excuse anymore to resort to Motley; his work does not comply to scholarly standards, and hence not to Wikipedia's standards. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]