Talk:Siege of Bursa

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Siege of Bursa article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Military history: Ottoman / Medieval

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion not met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Ottoman military history task force
	Medieval warfare task force (c. 500 – c. 1500)

Middle Ages Low‑importance

	Middle Ages portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Greece Low‑importance

	Greece portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Greece, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Greek history on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GreeceWikipedia:WikiProject GreeceTemplate:WikiProject GreeceGreek articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Former countries: Ottoman Empire

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Former countries, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of defunct states and territories (and their subdivisions). If you would like to participate, please join the project.Former countriesWikipedia:WikiProject Former countriesTemplate:WikiProject Former countriesformer country articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Ottoman Empire (assessed as Low-importance).

Opening heading

Siege of Bursa - 21 results
Siege of Prusa - 19 results

Takabeg (talk) 17:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That is supposed to mean that the article should be moved, I guess. The difference in search results is however really not big enough. I'd prefer an argument based on recognizability, but then someone else would come along and say that for historical battles we use historical names, etc. Unless there is a compelling reason to move, don't. Constantine ✍ 18:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not Necessary. I only wanted to compare them :) I "simply and solely" prefer "common use" in English, if there was no controversy. What do you think of Talk:Battle of Ankara#Battle of Angora and Talk:Siege of Shkodër ? Takabeg (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A bit off topic, but we're probably alone here ;) On Shkoder/Scutari, I support Scutari, for the reasons others too have stated. On Ankara, IMO the correct way would be to compare [1] with [2], i.e. post-1900 results. And if one discounts the dozens of reprints of Gibbon, the number for "Angora" is even lower. Similarly, if in 400 years the Siege of Scutari is more commonly referred to in literature as "Siege of X", then I'd support that one. Constantine ✍ 19:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Σας ευχαριστώ. Takabeg (talk) 10:22, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:52, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Prusa → Siege of Bursa – per WP:COMMONNAME

According to google books research:

"Siege of Prusa" -Llc minimum 14, most of them were written in 18th and 19th centuries.
"Siege of Brusa" -Llc minimum 13
"Siege of Bursa" -Llc minimum 16

Jan 1, 1980–Sep 13, 2011:

It's very clear that modern scholars don't prefer Siege of Prusa.

-- Takabeg (talk) 11:17, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support As Takabeg says, it looks like "Siege of Prusa" was used in 19th century history books. "Siege of Bursa" is almost exclusively used by modern historians. Filanca (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.