Talk:Sidhu Moose Wala/Archive 1
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Sidhu moose wala is not longer with sunny malton, byg byd and deep jandu . Remove that. Jaswinder88472 (talk) 18:15, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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In Summary Box please edit as below :
Current :Born January 13, 1990 (age 28)[1] Moosa, Mansa, Punjab
Edit : Shubhdeep Singh Sidhu Born January 13, 1990 (age 28)[1] Moosa, Mansa, Punjab Balram197975 (talk) 07:59, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:25, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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I want to make the artists page more proffesional, similar to pages like american artists and also add a picture. Hardilsingh (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. NiciVampireHeart 01:03, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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i would like to correct date of birth and parent's name that i have confirmed from the celebrity itself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidhumoosewalafan (talk • contribs) 08:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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106.78.93.191 (talk) 06:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC) [1]
- Not done. Spam link.SangrurUser (talk) 07:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
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Change "This song had lyrics glorifying militant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and his call to pick up arms against Indian State. In the same track, he also questions India's claim on Kashmir, which is ironic, since his father is an Indian Army veteran.[61] [62]" to "This song had lyrics glorifying Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. In the same track, he also questions India's claim on Kashmir." Chomskywala (talk) 20:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Sikh communities, and the governing institutions of Sikhs typically recognize Bhindranwale as a 'sant'. The Indian government typically silences discussions of Bhindranwale and calls him or any supporters 'terrorists'. In order to keep the article balanced, I think it's important to remove any biases towards either stance. Interested readers would be able to click on the link to Bhindranwale's page and would be given a more holistic account.
The other edit, is because the previous writer is again sharing opinions i.e. it's implied that individuals cannot criticize India's actions in Kashmir if their family members served in the Indian armed forces. This isn't a logical conclusion, and biases the article by introducing the writers' personal opinions.
- Done and much more RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
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tempu of Punjabi industry should be removed as it is a very bad slang in Punjabi language which has been edited by some haters on Karan aujla's Wikipedia page 171.79.145.33 (talk) 18:04, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- This change applied to a different article. I've removed the vandalism at Karan Aujla. To the IP: in future, use the talk page related to the article that needs changed. —C.Fred (talk) 18:17, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Occupation
Singer Rapper Songwriter Daredevil5911 (talk) 09:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Singer Rapper Songwriter Actor Daredevil5911 (talk) 06:05, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
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Daredevil5911 (talk) 10:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Sidhu’s occupation Daredevil5911 (talk) 10:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. (pinging Daredevil5911) — LauritzT (talk) 11:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Date of birth
Where is source of date of birth?? On social media he celebrated his birthday on 11 June. Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha (talk) 01:54, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Here. This BBC source which is reliable is cited in the infobox. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:57, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- I added more sources that cite a second birth date. It would be good to have a fact-checked, reliable source. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:25, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Links like this is not considered reliable as per WP:ICTF. While this one might be reliable but doesn't mention his birth date neither anything like "today is Sidhu's birthday" is in the source article. Better to go with BBC source for now. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:55, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- I added more sources that cite a second birth date. It would be good to have a fact-checked, reliable source. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:25, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
To all. Do not use this link as a source for this subject's DoB. The image is Promotional and the "passport" in this image is not Indian but photoshopped using an image of a Canadian passport. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:27, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
I think we should consider his official account much reliable than BBC though it is promotional but why would he upload wrong information from his official handle. Preetzaildar8 (talk) 01:59, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Preetzaildar8: Who knows, celebrities fake their birthdates a lot. Secondly, the image of the passport is fake since his name, birthdate, etc has been photoshopped upon the other singer's passport's picture. You can check it by analyzing the background image of the Crown which is used in Canadian Passports and the number at the bottom, "GK485392<" after which an "IND" has been replaced with the "CAN" and the remaining number are just same. Note the font used for IND is also dissimilar. This link is totally unreliable. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
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update date of birth to 11 june 1993 and father's name to Balkaur Singh Sidhu and mother's name to smt.Charan Kaur Sidhu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidhumoosewalafan (talk • contribs) 08:29, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Provide reliable source here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:33, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2020
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I am Sidhu Moose Wala's and my father name is S.Balkaur Singh and DOB is 11 June 1993 kindly correct it. Sidhumoosewala1993 (talk) 03:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Sidhumoosewala1993:You need to provide reliable source for these edits, i.e, like any reliable newspaper or his verified social media account.SangrurUser (talk) 03:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not done for lack of sources. Note I've also reported this account to WP:UAA per WP:REALNAME. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Report received, user blocked for verification – and I have removed the repeatedly challenged date. If an HTML comment is needed to justify inclusion, something may be wrong. I was not able to confirm the date from the linked source. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree:The BBC source may indeed be incorrect. Even the BBC gets things wrong sometimes, but it is not correct to say that that date cannot be confirmed from that source. It clearly states "Sidhu Moose Wala Born 13 January 1990" right at the top of the page. The inline comment wasn't there to justify inclusion, as much as a notice to all of the editors attempting to make unsourced changes. The BBC seems to be the only apparently reliable source that has even been presented. According to the talk page we've even had a faked source used. Whether we list the 1990 date or not, I think the history on this article still justifies a comment saying not to add the 1993 date without a reliable source, which is the reason behind the extensive protection log. Meters (talk) 04:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- If the current user claiming to be the person in question verifies his identity then this is moot, obviously. Meters (talk) 04:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- BBC can be wrong, but all sources that claim his DoB to be 11 June 1993 are unreliable. The subject even had a Photoshopped passport mentioning his DoB in Insta, which I dismissed here. If I remember correctly, I told someone to ask Moosewala to add his DoB in one of the verified social-site accounts like FB. That would seal the deal IMO. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh! Meters, I only saw the list of links, not the birth date. I'm pretty sure I had looked for it closely, surprised about the lack of content on the website. I thought it was removed one day, or something like that. Regarding OTRS verification, well, let's at least not use that as a source. It would, however, be an additional reason to keep the challenged date removed. Regarding the HTML comment, do feel free to (re-)add one about this; I was just concerned about it seemingly asking the reader not to remove the challenged date either. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- I am not overly confident in much of this article. At one point it claimed that that he had moved to Canada to attend high school for "higher education", after having graduated as an engineer in India. Many Canadian high schools are good, but they aren't that good! Meters (talk) 19:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- If the current user claiming to be the person in question verifies his identity then this is moot, obviously. Meters (talk) 04:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree:The BBC source may indeed be incorrect. Even the BBC gets things wrong sometimes, but it is not correct to say that that date cannot be confirmed from that source. It clearly states "Sidhu Moose Wala Born 13 January 1990" right at the top of the page. The inline comment wasn't there to justify inclusion, as much as a notice to all of the editors attempting to make unsourced changes. The BBC seems to be the only apparently reliable source that has even been presented. According to the talk page we've even had a faked source used. Whether we list the 1990 date or not, I think the history on this article still justifies a comment saying not to add the 1993 date without a reliable source, which is the reason behind the extensive protection log. Meters (talk) 04:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Report received, user blocked for verification – and I have removed the repeatedly challenged date. If an HTML comment is needed to justify inclusion, something may be wrong. I was not able to confirm the date from the linked source. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Meters, for that i would say Punjabis just need a way to get permanent residency in Canada. One or another! Tbh, above statement is totally acceptable in Punjab.SangrurUser (talk) 00:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- BBC, Apple Music and The Times of India support "13 January 1990" date while most of Punjabi sources support "11 June 1993". Also, the singer himself claimed "11 June" date in one of his songs poster, one Fylindfotberserk has mentioned.SangrurUser (talk) 01:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- At this point, we would need confirmation from the subject himself. Any interview in which Moosewala talks about his birthday and/or age SangrurUser? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Can we trust even a first-hand declaration? SangrurUser seems to be claiming that Sidhu Moose Wala lied about his age and previous education in order to attend a Canadian high school. Meters (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- No, his previous education "graduation at GNDEC, Ludhiana" is completely true. I have confirmed this from students of that college. Also, he has mentioned his graduation in his live performance.SangrurUser (talk) 01:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't questioning his Indian education. I was commenting on your apparent claim that to help get permanent residency status Punjabis (including Sidhu Moose Wala) would attend Canadian high schools after graduating in college (in Engineering no less, in this case) in India. That seems to imply that foreign students are lying about their age and previous education. If I misunderstood please explain. If your comment had nothing to do with Sidhu Moose Wala then you should not have made it. Meters (talk) 02:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Meters: You have a point, considering that he had also posted a photoshopped picture of his "Indian passport" [2] in his verified Instagram account. It was later removed- Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't questioning his Indian education. I was commenting on your apparent claim that to help get permanent residency status Punjabis (including Sidhu Moose Wala) would attend Canadian high schools after graduating in college (in Engineering no less, in this case) in India. That seems to imply that foreign students are lying about their age and previous education. If I misunderstood please explain. If your comment had nothing to do with Sidhu Moose Wala then you should not have made it. Meters (talk) 02:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- No, his previous education "graduation at GNDEC, Ludhiana" is completely true. I have confirmed this from students of that college. Also, he has mentioned his graduation in his live performance.SangrurUser (talk) 01:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Can we trust even a first-hand declaration? SangrurUser seems to be claiming that Sidhu Moose Wala lied about his age and previous education in order to attend a Canadian high school. Meters (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- At this point, we would need confirmation from the subject himself. Any interview in which Moosewala talks about his birthday and/or age SangrurUser? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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I want to edit the information the as it is so outdated and there are some mistakes as well. Prince.Hanzra (talk) 17:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Prince.Hanzra: What's the updated information, and what reliable sources is it from? —C.Fred (talk) 17:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm a close friend of sidhu moose wala and I've been with him a lot of times so i know there are some mistakes like about his personal life and career info. Prince.Hanzra (talk) 17:56, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Prince.Hanzra: Sorry, but alleged personal anecdotes are not reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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Harshdeep Singh Ramgarhia (talk) 17:56, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Please change the genre of sidhu moosewala and add Gangsta rap in it 🙏
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 18:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
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He just died. He was shot. Replace every is to was in the information. 1.186.160.110 (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:11, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done Already mentioned. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Anti Modi
Add his contributions towards the Anti Modi campaign! Information Destroyer 420 (talk) 14:31, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tow (talk) 16:06, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Need help with copy editing
Hi all, @Black Kite has given some good suggestions for improvement, please check and help update Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#RD:_Sidhu_Moose_Wala Venkat TL (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Black Kite in your review, when you say, "article is not updated for death" what are you suggesting to add? I can see there is a death section and death is added in both lead and infobox. What is lacking? Thanks for your suggestions. Venkat TL (talk) 17:38, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- issues fixed and it was posted on ITN.
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- ! Year ! Film ! Role ! Notes 2409:4055:4E92:7B93:A4B8:89BE:1F47:260E (talk) 04:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Death cause assassination 2409:4055:68A:FDF8:AC7B:3D1D:C585:BB1A (talk) 10:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 💜 melecie talk - 10:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Father's Name
His father's Name is Balkaur Singh not Bhola Singh. 2A02:810D:1580:20EC:88B6:A866:923B:7A86 (talk) 15:26, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
The name of his father is Balkaur Singh, please change the name from Bhola Singh into Balkaur Singh. PrmHundal (talk) 15:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Provide a reliable news source please. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
His Father’s name is Balkaur Singh not Bhola Singh 106.220.106.153 (talk) 17:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- already fixed. --Venkat TL (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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I request alteration in the following controversial lines published without any substancial evidence and source, in order to push political agenda and in an attempt monger hater and violence
DELETE
- Death
Moose Wala was among the 424 people, whose police security was reduced or entirely removed the day before, in preparation for the anniversary of Operation Bluestar, leaving him with two commandos only, as compared to four earlier.[1] At the time of the incident, Moose Wala was travelling in his private car accompanied by his private security guards instead of the state government provided bullet-proof vehicle and the police commandos.[2][3] Samarth27.09 (talk) 19:54, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Punjabi singer and Congress leader Sidhu Moose Wala shot dead in Mansa". The Indian Express. 29 May 2022. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
- ^ "Sidhu Moosewala Shot Dead: The Singer Was Not in His Usual Bullet-Proof Car, Say Sources | 10 Facts". News18. 29 May 2022. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
- ^ "Murder Of Sidhu Moosewala Part Of Inter-gang Rivalry?". True Scoop News. 29 May 2022. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
@ADMINS DELETE THIS PART FROM THE ARTICLE Samarth27.09 (talk) 19:55, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done Samarth27.09, I am not admin. But I can see reliable source is added as reference, please check and read the reference. Venkat TL (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
@venkat TL The IndianExpress article cited doesn't even mention operation bluestar or any connection with Siddhus murder
(https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/amritsar/punjabi-singer-congress-leader-sidhu-moose-wala-shot-dead-7942590/) Samarth27.09 (talk) 20:02, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Samarth27.09 The reference number 3, True Scoop News mentions Ghallughar that is another name for that operation. Venkat TL (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Cause of death
Who killed him and why? 2.103.27.231 (talk) 23:09, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Read the article. What has been reported is already in there. Meters (talk) 00:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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Talbinderkaur (talk) 06:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC) Sidhu Moose Wala was assassinated It should be written "murder" instead of "death".
- Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:04, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Talbinderkaur It has been updated. Please check. --Venkat TL (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Not died, but killed. 2607:FA49:4044:100:EC03:A7B6:77B0:D791 (talk) 02:18, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Presuming you are referring to the infobox, no. The section immediately following is "cause of death" and that should be sufficient Cannolis (talk) 02:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Change the dp of sidhu moosevala
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Please wikipedia change the dp of sidhu moosevala..please please please i request to u. Please change and present time photo upload. Thnx 2402:8100:3948:113E:0:0:0:1 (talk) 10:38, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is not clear what is the change you require. >>> Extorc.talk 11:11, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
He was a very well known artist- one of the best in Punjabi music. Please use a good picture of him here. There are hundreds that are freely available that are better that what you have. Thank you. 2600:387:15:818:0:0:0:6 (talk) 03:25, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. >>> Extorc.talk 05:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only free images can be added here. No copyright images can be added. Please see the rules at Wikipedia:Image dos and don'ts. Please provide link of free image. --Venkat TL (talk) 13:37, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Death section at bottom or on top?
@DeluxeVegan, @Fylindfotberserk, isn't it natural to have the death section at the bottom. Why move it to the top? Venkat TL (talk) 15:28, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- I moved the death section so that it would be a subsection of personal life, which seemed quite appropriate. It so happened that the personal life section was the first section in this article. I wouldn't mind if the entire section was moved to the end. DeluxeVegan (talk) 15:36, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DeluxeVegan actually the section personal life was wrongly titled. It should have been Early life. I changed it. There is no details about his personal life or wife/gf/kids. I moved the death section to the bottom. Please check and comment. Venkat TL (talk) 15:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: Some of things in the early life section, specifically the second para should be part of personal life. It would be OK if you move that in newly created Personal life section and add the Death section as a sub-header. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- ^Agreed as well. Perhaps his police case and arrest too can be included there instead of the current controversy section (because WP:CSECTION and frankly an arrest shouldn't be called a controversy in Wikipedia's voice). DeluxeVegan (talk) 16:07, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk That was how it was after @DeluxeVegan moved the death section as a subheader. After your comment, I agree that the second para was not deserved in the early life section. I moved the second para of early life section to lead. There is not enough material to start a personal life section yet. his court cases can be covered in Lawsuits/Legal cases section instead of Controversy. Both of you please take another look on the new section arrangement and share your opinion. Venkat TL (talk) 16:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DeluxeVegan and Venkat TL: The sentences −
He had close relations with his parents, and has released tracks titled "Dear Mama" and "Bapu".[13] As of 2019, Moose Wala resided in Brampton.[14]
−- should be moved somewhere else. The first one is kind of undue. And the second one is rather recent (2019), that is not part of 'Early life', so can be moved to the Career section clubbed within the paragraph that starts with −In 2019, Moose Wala...
. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)- Moved the Brampton part in relevant section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- thanks. Venkat TL (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: The current section arrangement is fine by me :) The sentence on parents is somewhat redundant (it would only be noteworthy if someone didn't have good relations with their parents). If the tracks themselves are significant they can be mentioned in Career instead, sorted by their year of release. Cheers, DeluxeVegan (talk) 17:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DeluxeVegan @Fylindfotberserk I have no objections to your suggestions you posted above, feel free to implement them. The section headers seem fine now. Lets focus on the "heavy copy editing that is needed" as suggested by Black Kite below. Venkat TL (talk) 17:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: The current section arrangement is fine by me :) The sentence on parents is somewhat redundant (it would only be noteworthy if someone didn't have good relations with their parents). If the tracks themselves are significant they can be mentioned in Career instead, sorted by their year of release. Cheers, DeluxeVegan (talk) 17:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- thanks. Venkat TL (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Moved the Brampton part in relevant section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DeluxeVegan and Venkat TL: The sentences −
- @Fylindfotberserk That was how it was after @DeluxeVegan moved the death section as a subheader. After your comment, I agree that the second para was not deserved in the early life section. I moved the second para of early life section to lead. There is not enough material to start a personal life section yet. his court cases can be covered in Lawsuits/Legal cases section instead of Controversy. Both of you please take another look on the new section arrangement and share your opinion. Venkat TL (talk) 16:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- ^Agreed as well. Perhaps his police case and arrest too can be included there instead of the current controversy section (because WP:CSECTION and frankly an arrest shouldn't be called a controversy in Wikipedia's voice). DeluxeVegan (talk) 16:07, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: Some of things in the early life section, specifically the second para should be part of personal life. It would be OK if you move that in newly created Personal life section and add the Death section as a sub-header. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DeluxeVegan actually the section personal life was wrongly titled. It should have been Early life. I changed it. There is no details about his personal life or wife/gf/kids. I moved the death section to the bottom. Please check and comment. Venkat TL (talk) 15:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Removed the undue part [3]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:03, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Fork of Death section
@Venkat TL and DeluxeVegan: Is this FORK needed? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose See WP:PAGESIZE and WP:FORK. At this stage a split to a new page is unnecessary and disruptive. The length is well within the limits of recommended guidelines and I see no good reason to ask readers to click multiple links to read relevant information. In future this may change but there is not enough information to create a new article. @Suryabeej: We should be mindful about WP:NCRIME and WP:BLPCRIME because all the accused are considered innocent until convicted. --Venkat TL (talk) 13:40, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per Venkat TL. >>> Extorc.talk 14:06, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose for now per above. DeluxeVegan (talk) 17:20, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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Sidhu Moose Wala was shot 24 times which 4 times was in the chest, once in the head, in the foot, in the penis twice and the rest remaining penetrated his chest Neeved (talk) 12:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Overcite
@Fylindfotberserk how do we cut down on the WP:OVERCITE. In my opinion we should not be using WP:TOI and India TV when more reliable sources are available. Venkat TL (talk) 18:40, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: I see no consensus over whether TOI should be totally avoided at WP:RSP, moreover celebrities mourning over Sidhu's death is not something I'd say 'government leaning'. AS for India TV News, I'm not aware of any such consensus. If you you can point me to then I'd be thankful. Though the India TV News source can be replaced with the Business Standard source. I've trimmed the celebrities part and used Outlook. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:56, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Mai Bhago
@Fylindfotberserk in the section "Mai Bhago", I was trying to avoid any WP:CLOP but you have brought it more closer to CLOP. Please check. Also please see if this section can be expanded, right now it only has basic info. Venkat TL (talk) 07:04, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: The text from the source -
In September, 2019 he landed in trouble for inappropriately referring to ‘Mai Bhago’ (legendary Sikh woman who led 40 Sikh soldiers in fight against Mughals) in his song. Later, he apologised on social media for the mistake and even appeared before Akal Takht over the matter in March 2020.
- Your version -
- In September 2019, Moosewala inappropriately referred to Mai Bhago in one of his songs. Mai Bhago (Mother Bhago) is a legendary Sikh woman who fought against the Mughals. Moosewala apologised on social media for his mistake. In MArch 2020 he appeared before the sikh religious body Akal Takht in a hearing over the incident.
- My version -
- In September 2019, Moosewala inappropriately referred to Mai Bhago, a 17th century Sikh warrior woman, in one of his songs. Moosewala later apologised on social media and in March 2020 appeared before the Sikh religious body Akal Takht in a hearing over the incident.
- The phrases in bold above are the ones matching with the source. As you can see, my version is similar to yours but with less WP:CLOP, that is I've replaced the phrases legendary Sikh woman who fought against the Mughals, for his mistake in your version which were taken from the source. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk alright. Lets see if this can be expanded further with details. Venkat TL (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: Yeah please carry on with the expansion, I'll join you after going through my watchlist . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- With new addition, some more clean up copy edit needed. Venkat TL (talk) 12:16, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: Yeah please carry on with the expansion, I'll join you after going through my watchlist . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk alright. Lets see if this can be expanded further with details. Venkat TL (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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He was cremated In Moosa not Jwaharke 117.241.124.108 (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- The sources say he was cremated at Jawaharke. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:24, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Bhindrawale was not a militant
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Glorification of Khalistani movement
In December 2020, Moose Wala released the single "Panjab: My Motherland" in support of the 2020-2021 Indian farmers protest that featured clips of Sikh Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and speeches made by Khalistani supporter Bharpur Singh Balbir in the late 1980s.[1][2] Charanjit.jagdev (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- The source [4] explicitly says Khalistani militant. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:00, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Brar, Kamaldeep Singh (5 August 2020). "Sidhu Moosewala: The Punjab Police poster boy who turned into controversy's child". The Indian Express. Archived from the original on 30 May 2022. Retrieved 14 March 2022.
- ^ "Two Punjabs sing in farmers' support — one for brotherhood, other with visuals of Bhindranwale". The Indian Express. 31 December 2020. Archived from the original on 2 June 2021. Retrieved 30 May 2021.
Controversy section
Controversy section has been added again. I believe I had removed it in past due to controversy section rule of Wikipedia. Now someone ( I dont know who) added it again. Controversy section is not needed here. Since they are related to his musical career, it should be merged into music career. Venkat TL (talk) 18:11, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: I agree. It was added by Jaspreetsingh6 in these edits. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk thank you for agreeing. I have merged it once again. Please see if you agree with the position. Basically I added it based on the years and chronology. Venkat TL (talk) 19:13, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Killed not died
He was killed 88.105.129.153 (talk) 19:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Which means he died. —C.Fred (talk) 19:44, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Venkat TL (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Interview
@Jaspreetsingh6: Tell me in which timestamp MooseWala said anything regarding Khalistan, Ranjit Singh and Ram Rajya. This, is the URL of your source. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspreetsingh6: This link you added recently says video not available. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Re-added with working link. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry for my bad behaviour Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 12:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspreetsingh6: That's OK. Please preview your changes on whether the sources are correct / reachable before publishing new revisions. And kindly, discuss issues in the article talk pages in such circumstnaces, it would keep things centralized. Best. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
I'll take care that I edit with the proper source. Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 12:41, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Grammar Error: "He was travelling in his personal car and did neither took the two bodyguards provided by the state government nor his bullet proof car." Change previous quote to "He was travelling in his personal car and did not take the two bodyguards provided by the state government nor his bullet proof car." 2601:601:280:4BA0:ACA4:7316:52CA:5D18 (talk) 03:24, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed, but in a slightly different way. Aidan9382 (talk) 04:53, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Sidhu neither took his bodyguards with him because one of them was sick and the other was with his father he was going next door and it was a planned hit because sidhu was not paying extortion money. This statement that he was involved with gangs was taken back by the DGP of Punjab Police and is only propaganda to ruin his image Udaykanwar2 (talk) 10:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Venkat TL (talk) 10:57, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Change his picture
Can anyone tell me how can I add and upload image in article and Wikipedia page with mobile Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 10:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Jaspreetsingh6 see my reply below. Venkat TL (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
He is one of the most accomplished Punjabi singer. Why pick this pic? Can you please provide a page where a nicer picture or more appropriate pic can be submitted? There are hundreds of them 2601:602:9700:2C70:A96A:322C:E4C1:5171 (talk) 14:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are thousands of copyrighted image. They cannot be used. Only free images can be added here. No copyright images can be added. Please see the rules at Wikipedia:Image dos and don'ts. Please provide link of free image. Beware, if you upload copyrighted image, you may be banned and the image may be deleted see this image was deleted as someone uploaded copyrighted image. So dont waste your time by uploading copyrighted image. If you are the copyright holder of the free image then you can upload it at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard --Venkat TL (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi Venkat- can a picture from another YouTube clip be used? The current pic is from his interview. 24.22.135.198 (talk) 19:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Most youtube videos are copyright of the uploader. So a pic from youtube video will not be free. --Venkat TL (talk) 09:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Recent edits converted the page into a Memorial. Please read Wikipedia:NOTMEMORIAL
Recent edits converted the page into a Memorial. I have reverted the page to last version before such edits. Please read Wikipedia:NOTMEMORIAL. @Jaspreetsingh6 @WikiUser1211 If you wish to add something please get WP:CONSENSUS. Do not edit war. See WP:3RR. Venkat TL (talk) 12:15, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
First of all I already talked with Fylindfotberserk and sortout the things he agreed with he said that I can only mentioned those celebrities who pay tribute to Sidhu through the song and Live performance not who who just Show their condolence and I also going to add memorial but first I just collecting proper sources Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 12:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
And those edit which I edit recently live Burna Boy and Honey Singh please restore them Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 12:47, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspreetsingh6 you are supposed to discuss changes on this article on this page. I dont know where you discussed with @Fylindfotberserk since it is not on this page. I understand that you wish to add Honey Singh, Burna Boy, Others will say they want to add Drake. Then this page will become a list of artists. All of them cannot be named. If there are exceptional reasons to add an artist giving tribute then you need to start a thread and get consensus before adding it. I oppose addition of their names. Moosewala page cannot be used to advertise Honey Singh and other artists. Just as You will not add on Honey Singh article that he gave tributes to Moosewala, same reason here. Venkat TL (talk) 12:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
You can Check @Fylindfotberserk Talk page and now let's go to the topic of promoting artist brother for example in nippsey husssle page memorial mentioned Barack Obama but that doesn't mean they promote Barack Obama and one more thing Honey Singh is one of most famous indian he doesn't need promotion Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 13:02, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
And I only added those person who give tribute to Sidhu through the song and live concerts not those who showed their condolence Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 13:05, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
But I have a solution that will solve both our problem. Why don't we make a separate page for the death of Sidhu.Like sushant singh rajput Tupac.where we can mention the tribute memorial Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 13:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- No His death is not notable enough to merit another page, it fails WP:NOTNEWS. If you create, others will delete it and you will be back to square one, with your efforts wasted. @Jaspreetsingh6 if they released a song for Moosewala, then please provide a reliable source and your proposed content to be added into the article. If what you are saying is true, then may be 1 line can be added that Artist X released a song as a tribute for Moose. This will also need to be added into that artists bio. 2 way addition. But if they just wrote a tweet or gave sound bytes or attended his funeral, then I am afraid that is not enough. (@Fylindfotberserk please avoid discussing article matter on user talk page, please follow Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines) Venkat TL (talk) 13:12, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Don't worry I just mentioned those person or celebrities who pay tribute to Sidhu through the song and Concerts not who just tweeted and show their condolence Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 13:15, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspreetsingh6 Please make a proposal on the talk page below by starting a new thread, if we all agree, then you can add it into the article. This will prevent an edit war. see WP:CONSENSUS. Venkat TL (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Woah, you got it wrong. Go through the specific discussion in my talk page. I asked Jaspreetsingh6 to frame properly sourced sentences if a notable person(s) has done something specific like a song in his honor, since → "Punjabi Singer R-Nait released the tribute song, "Meri Maa" dedicated to Sidhu Moose Wala on 6 June 2022" ← is a sentence in the article as of now. Though, R-Nait doesn't seem to have a Wiki article, making it non-notable thing to have in this article. Second, I've agreed to the addition of CM Maan's promise to have a stadium and a hospital in Mosse Wala's name, which I find a notable gesture to add, provided there are sources for which, as claimed by Jaspreetsingh6. Third, I've been asking Jaspreetsingh6 to gain the WP:CONSENSUS here since the beginning of my interaction with him. Finally, I can't bar people from commenting in my talk page. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:34, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk did you get a self ping? Venkat TL (talk) 13:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: Yeah lol . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
hey @jaspreetsingh6 also rename the Levels song from Levels up! what is levels up? i also stated it check on recent edits! and also there grammer mistakes correct them or re'edit my previous edit! WikiUser1211 (talk) 13:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: R-Nait should not be mentioned IMO, he is not notable, no article in Wikipedia. And the tribute parts need to be merged. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk yes, I agree. Please remove. I have done few reverts already. So taking a break. @Jaspreetsingh6 is ignoring my suggestions to start talk page threads to create consensus before adding. Venkat TL (talk) 14:13, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: R-Nait should not be mentioned IMO, he is not notable, no article in Wikipedia. And the tribute parts need to be merged. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Native village is Moosa
Under his funeral details, his native village is Moosa (Moose Wala meaning `of Moosa`) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipreet (talk • contribs) 17:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Wikipreet This source used in the article mentioned Jawaharke as his ancestral village as place of cremation. So what is written in funeral details is correct. Venkat TL (talk) 17:57, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Jawaharke is right next to Moosa village and it is being confused as the native village. Moosa, Mansa is his Native village and Jawaharke is the name of the village where he was attacked and assassinated. IntenseKidd (talk) 13:22, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- @IntenseKidd please supply WP:reliable source to support your claims. Venkat TL (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sidhu-moose-wala-s-last-rites-funeral-take-place-in-ancestral-village-amid-huge-crowd-101653987877894.html
- [5]https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/sidhu-moosewala-shot-dead-live-updates-cremation-at-noon-399748#:~:text=Singer%20Sidhu%20Moosewala%20cremated%20at%20native%20village%3B%20thousands%20pay%20last%20respects,-Final%20farewell%20to&text=A%20sea%20of%20mourners%20bid,Mansa%20district%20on%20Tuesday%20afternoon.
- https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/sidhu-moosewala-cremation-inconsolable-parents-dress-son-as-groom-for-his-last-journey-7945921/
- Are these reliable? IntenseKidd (talk) 13:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @IntenseKidd yes both are reliable. What changes do you want to be made? reply with Change X to Y format. Venkat TL (talk) 13:04, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Just checked the issue has already been resolved. Thank You. IntenseKidd (talk) 09:16, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @IntenseKidd yes both are reliable. What changes do you want to be made? reply with Change X to Y format. Venkat TL (talk) 13:04, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @IntenseKidd please supply WP:reliable source to support your claims. Venkat TL (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Jawaharke is right next to Moosa village and it is being confused as the native village. Moosa, Mansa is his Native village and Jawaharke is the name of the village where he was attacked and assassinated. IntenseKidd (talk) 13:22, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Moose Wala vs Moosewala
@Guneeta Moose Wala himself has written his name on his Twitter bio as Moose Wala. https://twitter.com/iSidhuMooseWala . Media is also following the same in most cases. Venkat TL (talk) 15:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not to mention Moose Wala is the article name and has to be maintained in this article and everywhere else. Unless it can be proven that Moosewala is the WP:COMMONNAME, Moose Wala should be maintained. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Guneeta Please see the reply above, this is an existing consensus and you are changing the WP:STATUSQUO without making WP:CONSENSUS. Please stop edit warring and respond on the talk page. Guneeta I understand that you will have to redo many changes, but it is your fault since you did not discuss this controversial Name change without discussing and did it all in one edit. Venkat TL (talk) 15:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Guneeta: You cannot change the article name which without a move request for an article name change. For the other changes you did, discuss here. Besides you can do that without changing the name. Your changes have introduced syntax error like broken image links, def sort error, etc. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sidhu's official Youtube channel has named Sidhu Moose Wala, his Twitter account Sudhu Moose Wala and Instagram account says Sidhu Moose wala. So, I believe we should stick to a name as per his social media account. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, Wala knows best what his own name is. --StellarNerd (talk) 19:29, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sidhu's official Youtube channel has named Sidhu Moose Wala, his Twitter account Sudhu Moose Wala and Instagram account says Sidhu Moose wala. So, I believe we should stick to a name as per his social media account. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Guneeta: You cannot change the article name which without a move request for an article name change. For the other changes you did, discuss here. Besides you can do that without changing the name. Your changes have introduced syntax error like broken image links, def sort error, etc. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Jat Sikh is already added in the Early life section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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File:Sidhu Moose Wala at Moosa 02.jpg
2402:8100:396D:BDCC:A0ED:C7CC:8ACB:5A0C (talk) 03:13, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. >>> Extorc.talk 06:00, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Pic appears to be copyright violation. IP user from where did you get this pic? --Venkat TL (talk) 06:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Cause of Death Drive-by homicide (gunshot wounds)
Cause of Death Should be the same as Tupac Shakur because he was his role model and the way to Tupac was assassinated the same way Sidhu Moose Wala was assassinated so it will be better if the cause of death will be written as Drive-by homicide (gunshot wounds) Gurraminderjot (talk) 13:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Gurraminderjot any source for this? From what I have read, this was more of a targeted killing (gang war). Venkat TL (talk) 06:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
date of Demise is incorrect
It is 25th May, 2022 not 29th May 2022 Anikettrivedi1996 (talk) 09:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Anikettrivedi1996 reliable sources mention it as 29 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61642596
- Where did you read it as 25? Venkat TL (talk) 06:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Controversy's should be seprate from career
I think controversy's should be seprate from career section the same happens in the page of many artists Manpreet1412 (talk) 03:14, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Manpreet1412 The Wikipedia community believes otherwise, you can read more on Wikipedia:Criticism#Avoid sections and articles focusing on criticisms or controversies Venkat TL (talk) 06:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
@Venkat TL Sir So can we make personal life section in which we can coverup his both criticism and praise or maybe reception sectionManpreet1412 (talk) 12:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Manpreet1412 what criticism? if it is about music it should be in Music career. If it is about politics, it should go in political career. Only awards are added, praise need not be mentioned. Venkat TL (talk) 12:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
@Venkat TL olay sir thanks for clearing my doubts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manpreet1412 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Created different Page for Sidhu murder
Is creating a different page for Sidhu Moose wala murder is alright just like Tupac Shakur xxxtantacian Notorious Big or is Wikipedia policy allowed this Jaspal34 (talk) 17:49, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspal34 Please read Talk:Sidhu Moose Wala/Archive 1#Fork of Death section. The current consensus is against it. Short answer, No. Unless this page is more than 100KB in readable size, no new page can be created. New page if created will be merged back here. Venkat TL (talk) 17:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
If I create the page about Sidhu death separately will it get deleted or just merged with this page Jaspal34 (talk) 05:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspal34 it will be deleted since the current consensus is against it. Venkat TL (talk) 08:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Then why didn't the Murder pages of Tupac Shakur and Notorious Big and xxxtantacian notget deleted if it doesn't come within the guidelines? Jaspal34 (talk) 08:38, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I dont know about those 2 cases. Look you should first answer, why you want to create multiple short pages. Are you aware of the rules WP:PAGESIZE ? Venkat TL (talk) 08:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I just want to make easI just want to make a separate article. Inspired by Tupac Shakur and Notorious Big and XXXTANTACIAN .Where I can do all that cover-up which has not been done in this page.I will recommend you please see of these three Murder pages. Jaspal34 (talk) 08:52, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspal34 I just read the page on killing of XXXtencion, I can see it talks about the killers and legal proceedings. The killing page is article about the legal proceedings. In case of Moose, there are only suspects. Nothing is confirmed as investigation is ongoing. If you want to add details about Death, Make a draft proposal here, if it is according to the rules, like WP:BLPCRIME it will be included in the death section of Moose. when the 100KB size limit is crossed a WP:CFORK discussion will take place and after that death page can be created. Venkat TL (talk) 09:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Okay thanks for clarifying Jaspal34 (talk) 09:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jaspal34 The edits were reverted as they were Mostly unconstructive, The lead is the summary of the article please dont remove it, read MOS:LEAD. Some Other edits are unsourced. If you want to add or remove something, please create a discussion thread on this talk page and work to generate WP:consensus Venkat TL (talk) 11:57, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk: @Venkat TL:I think his death his now notable enough. His death was one of the main issue in the Sangrur bypoll election. Thousands of articles and newspapers have covered his death and investigation. Also, the content in this page contains investigation of the one week after death only. After that, different state polices have made various revelations. So, I purpose creation of different article.SangrurUser (talk) 02:43, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SangrurUser actually the day by day or week by week case updates are not added on wikipdia. Only after some conviction is reached can the case details be added. I dont think it is a good idea to start one now. Until there are some convictions. You can update this page with more info. Venkat TL (talk) 07:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SangrurUser: I'd second what Venkat TL said. If the death and subsequent events become get big enough, considering due weight, we can have a separate article in the future. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:51, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SangrurUser actually the day by day or week by week case updates are not added on wikipdia. Only after some conviction is reached can the case details be added. I dont think it is a good idea to start one now. Until there are some convictions. You can update this page with more info. Venkat TL (talk) 07:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk: @Venkat TL:I think his death his now notable enough. His death was one of the main issue in the Sangrur bypoll election. Thousands of articles and newspapers have covered his death and investigation. Also, the content in this page contains investigation of the one week after death only. After that, different state polices have made various revelations. So, I purpose creation of different article.SangrurUser (talk) 02:43, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
@User:Fylindfotberserk Can we now make an article on Sidhu's death? Because now this topic enough notable to create separate article. - Labpreet Singh
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27.255.240.249 (talk) 19:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
His short name was 5911 it's a tractor name PPL used to call him 5911,sidhu moosewala. PPL call him 5911 coz tractor was powerful in old time and no one can beat him,sidhu was also same he was 5911 of Punjabi music industry coz no one coudnt beat him or near him when he sings or releases his songs without any promotion or fake views, u can hear him say in lot of interview and songs example bambiha bole so plz edit this information as well in good style and manner PPL called him legend also
- Not done Mot clear what changes you want to be made. Mention the specific changes in the format → "change X to Y", with source and explanation. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2022
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Please use a better picture for Sidhu. Possibly the one linked below. Thank you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sidhu+moose+wala&sxsrf=ALiCzsZ8jk6HXYWFW_NZMIWh5xoyR4lnlw:1658356743831&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKw4GlxIj5AhVgIEQIHTSaBTUQ_AUoA3oECAIQBQ&biw=1157&bih=716&dpr=2#imgrc=rQNlKjLwj_90JM 2601:201:301:7390:A5D6:4FDC:334C:3783 (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: We can not use copyrighted images. Please provide an image with an acceptable license. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2022
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Can we please change his photo? There are so many good pictures out there! https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/news/newswrap-june-08-sidhu-moose-walas-antim-ardas-salman-khan-shah-rukh-khans-unseen-pic-and-more-1139264. Can use this one 103.21.185.100 (talk) 08:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: We can't use copyrighted images. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2022
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Change of Shubhdeep Singh Sidhu Moose Wala's picture used on his main Wikipedia page with his photograph used in Sidhu Moose Wala's discography Wikipedia page. The current picture on his wikipedia page was famous for one of the viral memes> Hence, somebody posted it as a joke. Honeykamboj (talk) 09:28, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Requested image is a copyvio. I've speedid it on commons, and will remove it from Wikipedia as well. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:53, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Change of Shubhdeep Singh Sidhu Moose Wala's picture used on his main Wikipedia page any other of his non copyright photograph. The current picture on his wikipedia page was famous for one of the viral memes. Hence, somebody posted it as a joke. Please understand this and change his picture on his wikipedia page. Honeykamboj (talk) 00:29, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2022
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Change of Shubhdeep Singh Sidhu Moose Wala's picture used on his main Wikipedia page any other of his non copyright photograph. The current picture on his wikipedia page was famous for one of the viral memes. Hence, somebody posted it as a joke. Please understand this and change his picture on his wikipedia page. Honeykamboj (talk) 04:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Honeykamboj: Was the photo subsequently used in the memes, or was the photo taken from a meme? If it's the latter, then we need to look at replacing the image. If it's the former, subsequent use of the image is not really our concern. —C.Fred (talk) 13:08, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Suggestion
Fylinfotberserk I think We should remove Sidhu's controversial from Personal Life e and bring it back to career and that too year-wise without any special heading so that the negative point can also be ignored Daredevils56 (talk) 13:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Daredevils56: I'd like you to be more specific about the changes you propose. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
"bullets from an AN-94" ???
The AN-94 is chambered in the same 5.45×39mm M74 cartridge as the AK-74... Very typical ammo. Halfcookie (talk) 21:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Yassss! Prerit Tushir (talk) 14:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 September 2022
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In Death, aftermath it is stated in the last line i.e. On 26 July, Punjab Police arrested the last absconding shooter, Deepak Mundi. with source https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/sidhu-moose-wala-killing-last-shooter-arrested-amritsar-attari-border-deepak-mundi-punjab-police-latest-updates-2022-07-26-794989
The source has the information wrong as Deepak Mundi was arrested on 10 September 2022 from Nepal Bengal border source https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/moosewala-murder-case-sixth-shooter-deepak-mundi-arrested-8142672/ Gunwant bhambra (talk) 07:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Partly done: Per WP:CONFLICTING, conflicting sources with similar reliability should both be added. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Also, please refrain from posting duplicate edit requests. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:11, 22 September 2022 (UTC)