Talk:Shed (deity)

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Citations?

Can anyone prove any of this? I never heard of Shed, and am suspicious about any mention of Christianity in an Egyptian gods article. Ever since Zeitgeist it seems people want to link everything in Christianity to Egypt, so I'd like some independent cooberation.

I mean, the article even lacks any myth abut Shed, and it seems he only exists to be a "Saviour god" with no actual story of how he saved anyone from anything.

Isn't that just a bit suspicious to anyone else?

Yes the refs given check out ok, they are all from respectable academic sources. Anyone can add to the article cited material if they wish. Taam (talk) 20:46, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't buy it until I see said sources. There have been many dubious claims, as I said. Even if the soruces aee Academic, they can be easily misquoted Ala Freke and Gandy or Acharya S.

Ive read up on Egyptian Mythology and necer found any reference to Shed, and this article is strangely empty of any reference to who he was and what he did to win the title of "Saviour". He seems like a fake god. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.24.236.172 (talk) 21:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well check out the sources cited and then come back if you have a problem but meantime don't continue to delete cited material otherwise you risk being blocked from making edits. Taam (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The very first reference cited can be viewed on Google Books at [1] where you can find the deity Shed mentioned on page 278, although the cited page 313 is not visible in the preview. howcheng {chat} 16:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link to him from http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/childgod.htm It describes him as a protective diety. Damn, Taam, whenever there's something regarding someone trying to make Egyptian mythology look Christian, you seem to appear... The only thing Shed is "saving" people from is black magic and sickness. 69.254.76.77 (talk) 22:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another source [2] but snippet only. My copy of Shaw mentions She on p. 306, I'll change that in the article. I don't see how having a savior god makes Egyptian mythology look Christian. Ah, found another source. Dougweller (talk) 10:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Academia

One of the sources I checked was misquoted and did not really say where this supposed amulet was found, by whom, how old it was, cite a source for the info or anything of that nature. Not even a photo. There are many 2-sided Bes amulets out there with both sides being bes, but saying that bes is shed is horus and jesus without clear evidence is not acceptable grounds to state it as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledge Incarnate (talk • contribs) 01:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE!

I have contacted the Petrie Museum about an amulet bearing the name of SHED. They sent some hi-rez photos which did not really seem too impressive, but Horus was clearly seen on the reverse side. I am going to talk to the curator soon about the actual translation of the amulet to see if its accurate or not. It may be a left-over translation from the 1800's that became outdated and slipped through the cracks. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 08:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A quick Egyptian lesson

Here are all the "to save" verbs.

mni (save from death, drowning)

nHm (to preserve, rescue, save one's self)

nD (make good, ward off magic, protect)

sSd (to save)

So yes, it could be argued that sSd being close to shd MIGHT have meant to save, and as long as there is a kneeling figure next to this word in hieroglyphics then it becomes "savior". However, since the Sd is connected that means there would be s (vowel) S(mabye a vowel)d pattern. There is no "h" in there and it would probably be two syllables, not one. Something is amiss with this article or some bit of info missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledge Incarnate (talk • contribs) 01:59, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]