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New York Giants

The New York Giants actually played at the Yale Bowl during the 1973 season while their old home Yankee Stadium was being renovated esclusively for baseball but before Giants Stadium was opened.

Do your research. The giants played some games at Shea in 1975 after the Yale Bowl and before Giants Stadium.

Lawnmower of Doom?

Anyone know if the father won the lawsuit and received 10 million? Seems like if he was economically dependent it would be tough. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.110.221.182 (talk) 20:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

rock & roll

Recently on VH1's documentary series "7 ages of Rock". Shea Stadium was named the most hallowed venue in all of Rock and Roll

i havent seen the documentary, was it VH1 that called it that or the editors of the documentary, whomever they might be? does anyone have a written source? SJMNY (talk) 21:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing above logo

I'm removing SheaStadiumLogo150.PNG - it is not a stadium logo, as the article claims, but rather a cropped version of: http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=1845 with the text removed. If anybody wants to include the complete logo, identifying it as an anniversary logo, then please feel free. SixFourThree (talk) 14:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree[reply]

Elvis at Sick's Stadium

With all due respect, does Sick's Stadium really rank as a Major Stadium? The Beatles at Shea really was the first Major Stadium concert. Pat Pending (talk) 18:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Closing date

The closing date of 28 September does not belong on this page, that merely marks the last regular season game at Shea and does not take into account the playoffs. Plus a Billy Joel concert tour later that fall will be the last event held at Shea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjrover (talk • contribs) 03:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's for the article, not the infobox, along with the explanation that it's tentative and that "wikipedia is not a crystal ball", something that we've been battling with Yankee and Shea for a couple of years now, and also with Washington until the new one opened: It seemed that every few days, some IP address would insert the endpoint to RFK, although it was not officially done until the new one opened, which is the case with these also. Until the new stadium actually holds its first game and/or the old stadium is imploded thus making any future games impossible, we can't close out the old one. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 03:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On this topic, at some point, the verb in the lead could be changed from "is" (present tense) to "has been" (present perfect). This would be appropriate for the timeframe between the 9/28 ballgame and the official closing, whenever that is, at which time the appropriate verb would be "was". Schweiwikist (talk) 22:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's still the current ballpark until they have physically moved to the new one and/or the old one becomes inoperable, such as by removing all the seats before demolition begins. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 22:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames

Most of the other stadium pages have nicknames at the top of the infobox. Shea really doesn't have too many widely used nicknames, probably due to the fact that it's an easy to pronounce one syllable word. however, "Big Shea" is used by the media and fans to refer to the ballpark routinely. what are people's opinions on putting this as a nickname for the ballpark in the infobox? it's certainly at least at the level of calling the Metrodome the "humpty dump." Riphamilton (talk) 02:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've rarely, if ever heard it referred to as Big Shea, and I'm from NY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.110.59 (talk) 06:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also a born & bred NYer / Mets fan since 1963 and have never seen or heard that usage anywhere. However, if someone can come up with a Wikipedia-valid reference, I wouldn't mind seeing it included here. BeBopnJazz (talk) 14:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cubs fans have several nicknames for it, though I doubt you would want to display them here. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Between a variant on New York City's nickname, and the apple-in-the-hat thingie at the Mets venue, one good nickname would be "The Wonderful One-Hoss-Apple Shea". Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A google search for "'big shea' mets" turned up 30,000+ results, including AP wire reports and excerpts from published books. i'll add it to the top of the infobox. Riphamilton (talk) 05:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

edit on "Other events"

FYI - I edited the reference to the next major concert after The Beatles appeared at Shea in 1966. It was factually inaccurate as it did not include the Festival for Peace. In defense of the original author, the Festival is almost unknown even among rock aficionados, despite being a watershed event in American concert and political history. BeBopnJazz (talk) 14:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Demolished now

They've demolished it. I think someone should mention this. --72.218.215.149 (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They haven't yet, although the Mets are trying their best to allow that work to get under way as soon as possible. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh

Well, the Mets have done it to me again... Although it would have been nice to have a win to end the Shea era, a heart breaking loss was sort of appropriate. At least there will only be one "Stadium" in NY now... (the house that George built?)... From now on the Mets will play where baseball is supposed to be played... on a field! Blueboar (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it will be a field, albeit a field named for a finance company. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 22:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yah... well... given the state of banking right now, I won't hold my breath on that. And if needed they can easily change the "i" to a "y". Of course, I always thought they should have named it the way they wanted to originally name Shea... They should have simply called it "Flushing Meadow". There would have been something right about playing baseball in a meadow.... "Come on out to the Meadow folks... bring a picnic, and watch the game". Unfortunately, I was "Just a little bit low" on my sponsorship bid. :>) Blueboar (talk) 23:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They could have called it the Flushing Meadowlands. :) It's unfortunate that they didn't name it after themselves in some way. "Yankee Stadium" says it's the Yankees home. Either "Shea Stadium" or "Citi Field" says they're playing on a field someone else owns, like they're just renters. I realize that's factually debatable, but to me it says the Yanks are still the number one team in the city. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 03:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

American Stadium

Stating that Shea Stadium "is an AMERCIAN Stadium" makes it sound like an "american stadium" is different from a "british stadium" or "canadian stadium", like "american football" and "association football". I don't think there's any difference... or does the stadium hold citzenship? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.208.60 (talk) 19:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

present tense

As far as I know it still is a stadium... "was a stadium" = "is a stadium". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.208.60 (talk) 19:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Until it's either demolished or being demolished, it's still an "is". Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As Bugs will attest, the same issue arises at Yankee Stadium, which will hold final rites in November (having allowed for the final home game of the World Series in late October). However, the New York Times article about scavenging for souvenirs in "Mudville, Queens" that I added to Shea's external links suggests that the dismantling is a little further advanced at Shea (were they less sanguine about the Mets' chances of finishing the Fall Classic at home?) But Shea is a stadium that either is or was home to the Mets (do the Mets yet have another home, or are they homeless?) —— Shakescene (talk) 20:31, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Demolition has already started. Most of the seats and other various fixtures are now removed and the dismantling of the actual structure will begin in about a week. I think it's now safe to use past tense for the article, but that's just me. Dknights411 (talk) 20:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as the stadium becomes unusable, I think it's safe to call it a "was". Compare with Busch Stadium, which hadn't seen its first game in 2005, but Busch Memorial Stadium became a "was" because they started demolition about as soon as the Cardinals were ousted from the playoffs and had the whole thing down before December 31. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 22:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, that's exactly what they're doing with Shea Stadium. They started taking the thing down the day after the Mets were eliminated. Dknights411 (talk) 02:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photographs of Shea showing the old blue and orange rectangles? And Shea AFTER they took down the blue and orange rectangles when it was unpainted, before it was painted (yech) blue and before they put those hideous neon baseball player figures on the outside?

I think that it would be great to have a photo on there with a good shot of the blue and orange rectangles (or were they squares?) hanging on the outside of the stadium, next to the ramps.

Also, there was a time, I believe it was from the 1980 season until they painted it blue (yech) before the 1987 season, when they had taken down the blue and orange triangles and just left it like that. Without any paint on the outside. It was simple and tasteful. Anyone seen any photographs of those years? I thought that Shea looked the most tasteful during those years. Although I'd take the blue and orange rectangles over the hideous blue-painted stadium (Yech), which, in my opinion, made Shea look like crap. I mean, blue is my favorite color, but the entire exterior of Shea painted that way, I thought it was barf-inducing.

At any rate, regardless of one's opinions on the changing aesthetics of Shea, the time between 1980 and 1987 is a period that shouldn't be ignored in photographs, if available. It's part of the history of Shea. And don't forget, the Mets won the World Series in '69 with the orange and blue rectangles on the stadium, and they won it with the plain, unpainted stadium without the paint or the rectangles in 1986! - Runt (talk) 01:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Beatles

I think the Beatles concert should have more written about it. I tried to add more but my edit was deleted. I mean, this was the first concert held in a major outdoor facility and one of the most famous and most important concerts in history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.137.142 (talk) 01:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit on 'Design'

Removed the paragraph begining with 'Shea was mostly funded by the 1964 World's Fair'.The stadium was apparently funded by general Obligation Bonds,and the stadium was intended to be opened in 1963 but labor issues delayed the opening until 1964. So its unlikely there was a deal with the Mets to move in 1964 in exchange for funding help. I can find no evidence that any worlds fair events were held at Shea Stadium. It was originally intended to be called Flushing Meadows Stadium not World's Fair Stadium as noted in an earlier section of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alstoer1 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Clash

The Clash filmed the video for "Should I stay or should I go?" and recorded a live album at Shea. I think this should be mentioned.

Empire Dome

Does anybody renember anything about a failed proposal to replaced Shea Stadium with the "Empire Dome" during the early-1980's? ----DanTD (talk) 01:20, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Lawnmower incident

The article is incorrect about the lawnmower incident.

The grand finale was a red 40-pound lawnmower. Its blade flew into the stands hitting John Bowen of Nashua, New Hampshire.

This is not at all what happened. It wasn't an actual lawnmower, it was a radio controlled airplane made to look like a lawnmower. It did not have a blade like real lawn mower does! What happened was that the actual plane, that looked like a flying lawnmower, crashed into Bowen causing major trauma to his head. I'm changing this in the article, but someone can please take a look at my changes to check that they follow the wiki standards.37.197.12.216 (talk) 22:02, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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the New York Phillies

According to the Boston Globe 4/16/1959, William Shea offered the Philadelphia Phillies a stadium in Flushing if they would move...which they obviously didn't, just sayin'... 108.20.114.62 (talk) 15:29, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why was Shea stadium demolished?

Hi all, nowhere in this article or on the Talk page is a reason given why Shea stadium was closed and demolished. Can anyone add a word to explain? 2001:BB6:491F:9E00:ECD8:9FEB:29A:7D5B (talk) 14:28, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The lead ends with It was demolished in 2009 to create additional parking for the adjacent Citi Field, the stadium built to replace it and the current home of the Mets. -- Pemilligan (talk) 15:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]