Talk:Shattariyya

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Previous incarnation of article was a copyvio

Just a note to say that this article, although as yet only a stub, has been rewritten, as the previous incarnation was flagged for possible copyvio, being based on Persecution and Circumspection in Shattari System (which I've now relegated to the External links section). Esowteric+Talk 16:36, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Temp alternative to copyvio

I've created a temporary page as a possible alternative to copyvio at Talk:Shattari/Temp. Sorry, it's only as stub as yet. Hope this helps. Esowteric+Talk 15:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It has been used to replace the existing page. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Value judgments

Secondary, according to whom? "Later secondary branches were taken to Hejaz and Indonesia" and "In the late sixteenth/early seventeenth century C.E.the secondary branch of Shattariyya was introduced to Medina by Sibghatallah ibn Ryuhallah al-Sindi al-Barwaji". Both Sibghatallah (bringing the Shattariyya to the Hejaz) and Singkel (bringing the Shattariyya to Indonesia) represent direct chains of transmission, as direct as those that remained in India. And when Idries Shah writes that the Shattariyya were subsequently re-absorbed into the Naqshbandiyya, he is almost certainly referring to the Hejazi Shattariyya - who had by then become the pre-eminent branch of the school, and whose teachers were known throughout the Islamic world (the Shattariyya in Indonesia were superceded, but not necessarily 'reabsorbed', by the Naqshbandiyya-Mujaddiyya in the nineteenth century). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.39.42 (talk) 09:21, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]