Talk:Sayyida Shirin

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Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 15:28, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing now. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 15:28, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a result, started attacking the outskirts of Ray. – something missing here.
Mahmud had been keen expand his power – "to expand"?
"Daylamite" not linked, could also be explained/introduced?

Linked it. I'm not sure where to explain in the middle of a text. Respectfully I don't think too much should be explained either, as we have the links for that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:50, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

She is notable for securing the governorship of Isfahan to her first cousin Ala al-Dawla Muhammad – But there is only a single sentence about this in the main text. When this is the most notable thing about this princess, shouldn't there be more? At least, I would expect that Muhammad is introduced, how he is related to her, etc.

Unfortunately not. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:50, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The background section could be much more helpful with general information on the Bavand and Buyid empires, as done in Majd al-Dawla.
Also, some information about princess rulers in the Buyid empire (and/or similar empires) would be helpful. I guess a princess ruler is rather the exception (?), but was Sayyida Shirin the only one?

Knowledge about women in this period of Iranian history appears to be very scant unfortunately, so that's about the best I could find. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:50, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm furthermore concerned that the main text contains relatively little information on Sayyida Shirin. It is mostly the same text used in the Majd al-Dawla article. Is this article exhaustive, i.e. does it contain all information available?

From what I remember, yes unfortunately. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:51, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If there is so little information, I also wonder about the historical sources. Is there a single important source from which we know abut this topic? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 15:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think Sayyida mostly appears in the work of Ibn al-Athir, where she is often mentioned in relation with her sons, particularly Majd al-Dawla. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Short article, but it seems to cover everything we know about this topic. Well done, promoting now. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 18:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]