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zach nadler is from sewickley

Removed from main page because it lacks citation. I'm guessing this person isn't noteworthy.

12.1.224.196 05:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)kdf[reply]

Why does is say that Sewickley means "Duck Butter" Google that term and you can see this must be some kind of sick joke. Not sure who this site works so someone else will have to change.

Pronunciation

A phonetic spelling of the word to guide pronunciation would be good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.106.16 (talk) 16:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also would like how to pronounce this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.226.158.187 (talk) 04:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Name

The name section in this article is a mess. As of 15 November 2017, the two paragraphs contradict each other:

"Sewickley is thought to be a Native American word meaning "sweet water."^{[citation needed]}  Historians dispute if Native Americans were referring to the Ohio River as the "sweet water" or instead to the syrup derived from a local abundance of maple trees.^[1]^{[citation needed]}}
"Historian Charles A. Hanna suggested "Sewickley" came from Creek words for "raccoon" (sawi) and "town" (ukli).^[2] According to Hanna, the Asswikale branch of the Shawnee probably borrowed their name from the neighboring Sawokli Muscogee before the former's migration from present-day South Carolina to Pennsylvania. Contemporary accounts from noted anthropologist Frederick Webb Hodge^[3] and the Sewickley Presbyterian Church,^[4] as well as the current Sewickley Valley Historical Society^[5] concur to varying degrees with Mr. Hanna's etymology."

The first paragraph is only supported by an archived link to wpconline.org, which now redirects to the Western Pennsylvania Conservancy's website, which in turn cites the 1996 photographic coffee table book "Historic Houses of the Sewickley Valley". References for the second paragraph are more robust and include reliable sources. The phrase "is thought to" is vague and needs clarification. Sources are needed to support both of the following assertions: (i) "Sewickley" is a pre-Columbian word for "sweet water" (ii) Historians dispute whether "sweet water" refers to the Ohio River or maple syrup. It should be noted the "sweet water" story has been explicitly refuted by the Sewickley Valley Historical Society.

One of three things should happen: (1) The first paragraph should be removed; (2) stronger evidence should be presented supporting the first paragraph; or (3) the first paragraph should be rewritten and presented as local lore, not historical fact.

Midnight ambassador (talk) 18:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)Midnight ambassador[reply]

References

^ What's in a Name? Archived 2006-09-30 at the Wayback Machine, Article about the origins of the word "Sewickley". Apr 14, 2004.
^ Charles Augustus Hanna (1911). "The Traders at Allegheny on the Main Path; With Some Annals of Kittanning and Chartier's Town". The Wilderness Trail: Or, The Ventures and Adventures of the Pennsylvania Traders on the Allegheny Path. Vol. 1. New York and London: G. P. Putnam's Sons. p. 298. Retrieved 5 December 2016.
^ Smithsonian Institution Bureau of American Ethnology (1907). Frederick Webb Hodge (ed.). Handbook of American Indians North of Mexico: A-M. Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office. p. 536. Retrieved 6 December 2016.
^ Presbyterian Church (Sewickley, Pa.) (1914). A history of the Presbyterian Church of Sewickley, Pennsylvania: consisting of certain addresses, delivered February 16-19, 1913, on the occasion of the seventy-fifth anniversary of the permanent organization of the church ... New York: Knickerbocker Press. pp. 80–. Retrieved 5 December 2016.
^ "The Origin of the Name "Sewickley"".

[1] What's in a Name? Archived 2006-09-30 at the Wayback Machine, Article about the origins of the word "Sewickley". Apr 14, 2004.

[Hanna1911-2] Charles Augustus Hanna (1911). "The Traders at Allegheny on the Main Path; With Some Annals of Kittanning and Chartier's Town". The Wilderness Trail: Or, The Ventures and Adventures of the Pennsylvania Traders on the Allegheny Path. Vol. 1. New York and London: G. P. Putnam's Sons. p. 298. Retrieved 5 December 2016.

[Hodge1907-3] Smithsonian Institution Bureau of American Ethnology (1907). Frederick Webb Hodge (ed.). Handbook of American Indians North of Mexico: A-M. Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office. p. 536. Retrieved 6 December 2016.

[Pa.)1914-4] Presbyterian Church (Sewickley, Pa.) (1914). A history of the Presbyterian Church of Sewickley, Pennsylvania: consisting of certain addresses, delivered February 16-19, 1913, on the occasion of the seventy-fifth anniversary of the permanent organization of the church ... New York: Knickerbocker Press. pp. 80–. Retrieved 5 December 2016.

[5] "The Origin of the Name "Sewickley"".

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