Talk:Session musician

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A note

So when we are listing a musician here do you think that we should include some of his/her credits or not? Each has an article where much of tht is available - on the other hand, maybe it is useful to see 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 or 13 or 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 or 18 or 19 or 21 or . . . . . . . . . ......... well you get the idea, So, any ideas? Carptrash 03:33, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Sideman with Session musician?

Regarding the proposed merging of this article with Sideman: no way. The two terms have distinct meanings. InnocuousPseudonym 06:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the two should remain separate articles. It would be useful if someone could write a short, concise description of the difference between the two terms that could be used at the beginning of each article. Engineer Bob 01:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definately no merge. Cricket02 18:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MOST DEFINITELY no merge 24.7.217.221 05:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No merger. Session musicians are not always sidemen. Not all sidemen do session work. Whyaduck 14:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there is enough consensus against on both talk pages. I am removing the merge tag. Cricket02 07:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Carol Kaye

I'd like to add Carol Kaye to the list of session bassists. It seems pretty natural, since apparently she is the most recorded bassist of all time: [1]76.168.253.250 08:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Frank ____________[reply]

I just found out about her. It's a shame she still is not included.2003:CA:3F0C:73A8:C94:9DA:2C9B:73F6 (talk) 21:07, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hal Blaine

DRUMMER HAL BLAINE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.22.53.228 (talk) 02:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just cut this out

", ranging from a few hours to many months."

Hard to imagine a "session" player being used for a few months. Is this a reference to someone being hired to do an extended tour? Maybe? In which case, would s/he really be considered to be a "session musician" for that period/ I say "No." Carptrash (talk) 00:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe many albums have taken months to record. According to St. Anger, the recording process for that album took years. Onlynone (talk) 16:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Session and Studio musician

Read that paragraph for several times and tracked back in history to see, when it was introduced. Obviously it was reduced from a more extended explanation on December 16th, 2009. From what remains, I have no clue what makes the difference of Studio and Session musician (if any). The changes done on that date also left some fragments and stuff, which were partly revised until now and where I stripped another one off today. So I am not sure if the edit from December removed to many information or not. Cheers --StefanSchulzDe (talk) 12:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fragment in Introduction

The terms "session musician" and "studio musician" now. This seems to have been introduced in the December 2009 'tidy'. I'd fix it, but I have no idea what it was intended to say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.140.254.10 (talk) 16:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am about to remove

Peter Wolf from the keyboard section unless I hear other wise. eek aka Carptrash (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this sentence "The terms "session musician" and "studio musician" now synonomous." needs work. It means what? - besides spelling "synonymous wrong. Or is this the correct way to spell it somewhere? Carptrash (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Drummers

Sorry, but the "Drummers" section is absolutely appalling... Just delete it? Any need for sections relating to specific instrumentalists? 202.172.103.51 (talk) 14:15, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, so have moved the whole section here in case someone wants to work on it. Though I can not imagine why.

Drummers

Being a session drummer is one of the most lucrative jobs for a professional drummer. However, few drummers obtain the necessary reputation to receive this type of employment.

While these rates^{[clarification needed]} can seem large, there are a number of costs that go into the wage of a studio drummer. First, session drummers are highly skilled labor. Part of the cost compensates the unpaid training and practice that it takes to develop that skill. Second, session drummers do not have paying work in the studio everyday; rather, there may be hours of rehearsal spent outside the studio that go unpaid.^[1]

Increasingly, the high cost of session drummers has led to their replacement by machines. Record labels lower the advance they allocate to recording artists with the expectations that their producers will use drum programming to skip costly session drummers.^[1]

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^ ^a ^b D Arditi. "Digital Downsizing: The Effects of Digital Music Production on Labor". Journal of Popular Music Studies.

Carptrash (talk) 18:22, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have cut out the Crusaders

and moved them here for discussion.

The Crusaders^[1]

I see nothing to suggest that they were a sessions band. They might have backed other artists, though i did not discover where, but if they did it was likely more in the realm of a collaborative effort than a session thing. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ The Crusaders Discography at Discogs

"Seshie" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Seshie. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:04, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 27, 2021 Just a comment / hint for those maintaining this entry. As one who grew up surrounded by the Hollywood music biz in the 1950s and 60s, I can say there's a major omission in the Notable Groups section. If you were an artist without a band and had material to record, there were two primary choices in LA: The Wrecking Crew and Al Caiola. Al Caiola was a "session orchestra" who were at least as prolific as the Wrecking Crew. When you listen to hits by Neil Sedaka, Connie Francis, Paul Anka, Del Shannon, Petula Clark, Andy Williams, Buddy Holly (Crickets) and hundreds of others that have an orchestral backing, you're listening to Al Caiola. Not to mention nearly all the TV show theme songs. For the Bonanza theme, that's Al himself on the guitar. Anyway, those were your top two choices for recording a session in LA at that time.

 --Best regards, Phil Landmeier  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.97.235.231 (talk) 20:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[Arditi-1] D Arditi. "Digital Downsizing: The Effects of Digital Music Production on Labor". Journal of Popular Music Studies.

[2] The Crusaders Discography at Discogs

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