Talk:Sennacherib/Archive 1

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sennacherib was a fine man who deserved every opportunity that was granted to him, cheers! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.166.96.234 05:12, 30 May 2005 (UTC).

Sennacherib's first act was to break up the powerful combination of princes who were in league against him, among whom was Hezekiah, who had entered into an alliance with Egypt. Sennacherib accordingly led a very powerful army (reportedly 200,000 men in size) into Judah, and devastated the land on every side, taking and destroying many cities (2 Kings 18:13-16; compare Isaiah 22, 24, 29, and 2 Chronicles 32:1-8).

(See Isa. 22:1-13 for a description of the feelings of the inhabitants of Jerusalem at such a crisis.)

Hezekiah was not disposed to become an Assyrian vassal. He accordingly at once sought help from Egypt (2 Kings 18:20-24). Sennacherib, hearing of this, marched a second time into Judah (2 Kings 18:17, 37; 19; 2 Chr. 32:9-23; Isa. 36:2-22. Isa. 37:25 should be rendered "dried up all the Nile-arms of Matsor", i.e., of Egypt, so called from the "Matsor" or great fortification across the isthmus of Suez, that protected it from invasions from the east). Sennacherib sent envoys to try to persuade Hezekiah to surrender, but in vain. He next sent a threatening letter (2 Kings 19:10-14), which Hezekiah carried into the temple and spread before the Lord. Isaiah again brought an encouraging message to the pious king (2 Kings 19:20-34). "In that night" the angel of the Lord went forth and smote the camp of the Assyrians. In the morning, "behold, they were all dead corpses". The Assyrian army was annihilated.

Sennacherib did not campaign again against Jerusalem. He was murdered by two of his own sons (Adrammelech and Sharezer), and was succeeded by another son, Esarhaddon (681 BC), after a reign of twenty-four years.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.136.142.245 01:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC).

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) 07:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Sennacherib → Sin-ahhe-eriba – Sennacherib is what the bible calls him, but his real name, as recorded by himself, and other Akkadian records, including stone carvings from his time, and preserved in the British Museum, is Sin-ahhe-eriba.

Voting

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~

• Oppose: the current name is far more familiar to most readers, because of the Bible. Jonathunder 09:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose: Wikipedia policy is clear about using the English spelling of the name for the article title, not the native name, if it is different. That's why we don't have articles titled Nabu-kudurri-utsur, Sharru-kin, Deutschland, et al, unless they are redirects. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 14:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose per Wikipedia naming convention. I've made Sin-ahhe-eriba a redirect. Rd232 ^talk 16:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Table of successors

The story begins by saying that Sargon II was the predecessor and father of Senacherib but the table at the bottom makes that Adad-nirari III (wrongly I think)

nl:Gebruiker:Sokpopje —(The preceding undated comment was added 22:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC).)

Failure to look into 2 attempted invasions of Judah

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I believe you have failed to look into the fact that there were 2 different times Sennacherib invaded Judah. The first being in the 14th year of Hezekiah (i.e. 701 B.C.) where he had to return to Babylon in order to again defeat Merodach-Bladan (who reigned for 9 months (702 - 701) not as you have stated else where in an incoclusive article on Merodach-Baladan (Isaiah 37:36-38).

Sennacherib then attempted to invade Jerusalem again on his way to take over Egypt (and King Tirhakah) in 689 -688 B.C. [if this attempt at invasion would have been 701 Tirhakah would have only been 9 years old] reference Daniel David Luckenbill, The Annals of Sennacherib (Chicago; Universityof Chicago Press 1924), 35 It would seem strange if Sennacherib --so rentless in returning again and again to Babylon, even after a disastrous defeat in 691 B.C. - would leave Hezekiah shut up "like a caged bird" in Jerusalem and never come back reference Stanley Horton, Isaiah (Springield; GPH 2000) 280-281

So in order to make this article more biased as you say look into all avenues not just one persons idea or thought. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.145.219.70 (talk) 00:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

This really shows the old testament for what it is: a bunch of myths, inaccuracies and jewish propaganda

Obviously the jews wanted to make their defeat look like a great victory but fortunately the historic evidence shows a different story. The bible contains many other examples of how the jewish theocracy attempted to rewrite history. I think WikiPedia should focus more on this contradiction. 80.164.0.118 (talk) 00:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Sennacherib not referred to in Matt 21:33ff

The Parable of the Wicked Tenants [or Husbandmen] mentioned in this article has nothing to do with Sennacherib. Jesus is rebuking the leaders of Israel who were in charge of God's people. The Bible uses the image of a vineyard to refer to Israel [see Isaiah 5], the tenants clearly referring to Israel's leaders - Chief Priests and teachers of the Law [refer Matt 21:23]. Jesus is saying the leaders of Israel have failed to look after God's people. Even worse when God has sent his prophets to warn them they have been rejected or killed [e.g. John the Baptist]. Worst of all when God [the vineyard owner] sent his son [Jesus] they killed him too.

So, while a minor point in this article, the reference to Matt 21 should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.112.43 (talk) 23:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Lacks Citations

The article lacks citations for details of regin.

Quidom (talk) 04:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Image problem

The image Sennacherib.jpg is lacking information regarding its public domain status. Most of the information provided on the image page is regarding how it was copied to WikiCommons from English Wikipedia. The link provided as a source is broken and there is no information about what was on that web page. Though the image looks like something very old it should not be used unless details about how it was obtained are provided.

--Mcorazao (talk) 00:47, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Rather poorly written, and wrong Bible verse

The article sounds like it was written by a junior high school student, paraphrasing The Encyclopedia Britannica. Some of the sentences are not even complete sentences.

Also, the "Bible verse" quoted as "...the angel of Jehovah went forth and struck down 185,000 men in the Assyrian camp (2 Kings 19:35)" is not found anywhere in the Bible, let alone at 2 Kings 19:35. it says "וַיְהִי֮ בַּלַּ֣יְלָה הַהוּא֒ וַיֵּצֵ֣א ׀ מַלְאַ֣ךְ יְהוָ֗ה וַיַּךְ֙ בְּמַחֲנֵ֣ה אַשּׁ֔וּר מֵאָ֛ה שְׁמֹונִ֥ים" A SON OF YAHWEH, not "the angel of Jehovah." There is no god named "Jehovah" in the Bible. --Desertphile (talk) 01:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Really? The version of the Bible authorised by King James 400 years ago clearly has the name Jehovah at Psalm 83:18, and in other places too. This is the English version of Wikipedia and the use of that name is recognised in English, and has been for centuries, as the spelling and pronunciation used as the name of God in the Bible. If your argument is that this is not how the name appears in the original translation that you have quoted, then the same argument could be used to show that these was no Jesus, Abraham or Moses. I'm happy for the Anglicised version to appear on the English version of Wikipedia, how about everyone else? AndrewJFulker (talk) 12:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Additional Bible verses from Isaiah 37:33-38 (King James Version) that give a historical account:

[Isa 37:33-38 KJV] 33 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the king of Assyria, He shall not come into this city, nor shoot an arrow there, nor come before it with shields, nor cast a bank against it. 34 By the way that he came, by the same shall he return, and shall not come into this city, saith the LORD. 35 For I will defend this city to save it for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake. 36 Then the angel of the LORD went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they [were] all dead corpses. 37 So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and dwelt at Nineveh. 38 And it came to pass, as he was worshipping in the house of Nisroch his god, that Adrammelech and Sharezer his sons smote him with the sword; and they escaped into the land of Armenia: and Esarhaddon his son reigned in his stead.

Unconstructive

My additon of the cuneiform spelling of the name of Sancherib ᴰEN:ZU.ŠEŠ.MEŠ-iri₄-ba was removed because it was "unconstructive"; I fail to se why, but someone else who know a better place to add the name could perhaps do that. I fail to se how the spelling of his name in Cuneiform is less relevand than the spelling in Greek, or Hebrew. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.66.92.163 (talk) 14:03, 20 August 2012 (UTC)