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I update the stats section, but also flagged it as off-topic, as it is using sources that do not speak at all to the topic of the organization. (It speaks to a topic suggested by the name of the organization, but that is not the same thing.) This article is about a specific group, which is not a substantial representative of the general body of areligious abortion opponents. --Nat Gertler (talk) 11:58, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I just read this article, and that section seemed out of place. Maybe this information would be more at home in Religion and Abortion? 73.61.217.185 (talk) 02:02, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I removed the section as off-topic. —AFreshStart (talk) 05:03, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that the organization's primary purpose is to try to give the claim that there are secular reasons to oppose abortion credence. This claim is necessary in order to skirt the first amendment establishment clause. The reality is that virtually all abortion opponents oppose abortion on religious grounds but will deny it in public because it laws passed on religious grounds are unconstitutional and therefore invalid. The evidence for this is that the founder, Kelsey Hazzard, has a BA in Psychology & Religious Studies from University of Miami, JD from University of Virginia. Her claims that she has become an atheist after earning a degree in religious studies are not credible. Whether the page gains a "controversy" or "credibility" section explaining this, including her educational background allows the reader to draw their own conclusions as to whether the organization was actually founded on earnest belief or as a first amendment dodge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvbmi (talkcontribs) 00:29, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]