Talk:Secondary stress

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Which languages have secondary stress on heavy syllables?

I inserted a representative list of some languages with weight-sensitive secondary stress, and a link to an online-searchable database that lists them. Eldin raigmore (talk) 18:45, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which languages have secondary stress?

The article mentions that most languages don't have secondary stress. It would be nice to see a list of languages that do. I understand that English and Italian do, but I'm sure there are many more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.25.154 (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it predictable in Italian? Lots of languages have phonetic secondary stress, it just isn't phonemic. Dutch does not appear to be entirely predictable with words that are perceived of as having non-native affixes, as èndocrìnologíe (you'd expect it to pattern like èncyclòpedíe). kwami (talk) 23:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are at least three databases of stress systems. Two that are online-searchable and have data about secondary stress are: http://www.unileiden.net/stresstyp/form2b.htm and http://phonology.cogsci.udel.edu/dbs/stress/lg_secondary.php . About 24% of StressTyp's 510 languages either have only main stress or no main stress; about 31% of UD Phonology's Stress Patterns Database's 422 languages have only main stress or no main stress. Among the 103 languages that StressTyp lists as having no secondary stress are: Aguacateco, Amele, Bantik, Bengali, Chuvash, Cubeo, Gorowa, Grebo, Komi-Permyak, Latin, Maricopa, Oneida, Ritarungo, Slave, and Squamish. In the UD Phonology Lab's Stress Patterns Database the following are among the languages recorded with no secondary stress: Abun, Bulgarian, Chuvash, Golin, Hopi, Javanese, Kashmiri, Lithuanian, Mam, and Paamese. Eldin raigmore (talk) 18:12, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge part or all of this article

Please see my suggestion at Talk:Reduced vowels in English. I suggest merging the "English" section of this article with that one, since these two topics are (for English) very much bound up with each other. And since the "English" section forms the bulk of this article, it may then be desirable to merge the rest of this article into Stress (linguistics). (Detailed information about specific languages should go in the articles about those languages.) Victor Yus (talk) 09:38, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]