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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:07, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the Seamus Heaney HomePlace exhibits the late poet's leather bag and school desk?~~ Source: Harris, Patricia; Lyon, David (March 11, 2018). "Honoring the Poet and His Roots". The Boston Globe. Retrieved August 14, 2023.
- ALT1: ~~... that the Seamus Heaney HomePlace uses the basalt stone that once made up the wall of the RUC barracks which originally stood on the same site as the centre?~~ Source: Piavanini, Joanne (2020). Cultural memory in Seamus Heaney's late work. Cham, Switzerland: Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 209–213. ISBN 978-3-030-46927-6.
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Created by 1TWO3Writer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:41, 14 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Seamus Heaney HomePlace; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

New enough and long enough, no eligibility issues, no QPQ needed. I'm unsure about the hooks, though. "RUC" as an abbreviation is definitely not clear to a broad audience, though the contrast between the history of the force and the cosmopolitan complexity of Heaney could be spun into something interesting. Opening this one up to discussion -- there's a hook here, but I don't think either of these are there yet. Vaticidalprophet 08:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- How about something to the effect of: Did you know that the Seamus Heaney HomePlace is built on the site of a former police barracks used during the Troubles which featured heavily in the late poet's poems? 123Writer ^talk 19:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think that's a suitable ALT2, which I'll just format properly here (with a minor copyedit) so the promotion script can see it properly...
    - ALT2: ... that the Seamus Heaney HomePlace is built on the site of a former police barracks used during the Troubles, which featured heavily in the late poet's poems?
  - Approving ALT2 only. There might be a slightly smoother wording, but that can be worked out in prep. Vaticidalprophet 14:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @1TWO3Writer and Vaticidalprophet: Agree that ALT2 is a compelling hook...but now you need to make sure that the fact cited in the hook is clearly explained within the article itself. (I'm not seeing any explicit discussion of the Troubles in Heaney's poetry, although I do see that the police barracks are mentioned.) Cielquiparle (talk) 21:46, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - Vaticidalprophet, 123Writer's most recent Wikipedia edit, on 20 September, indicated that they had to step away from the site for a while. Can you address the hook issue noted by Cielquiparle? This has been sitting for four weeks, and the nomination won't be kept open indefinitely. Thank you. (Note: I have struck the original hook and ALT1, since you didn't approve them.) BlueMoonset (talk) 15:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        I have no topic knowledge here and am not sure how I missed that the hook wasn't properly in the article. Absolutely no clue what to do here, sorry. I'll take a look and get back to you. Actually, do we need the "that was an influence on his poems" part? That seems to be the only problematic part here, and I think the hook works okay as the statement of what it was built on. Vaticidalprophet 15:27, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Vaticidalprophet: Have you had a chance to look at this? Can any hooks be approved, any hooks to propose or should this be closed as unsuccessful? Z1720 (talk) 18:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could try...

... that the Seamus Heaney HomePlace contains mobiles of words Heaney used in his poems?

Vaticidalprophet 19:04, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really think that's interesting enough. I'm going to close this nomination as unsuccessful, given the nominator's unfortunate absence. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:04, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]