Talk:Scrip/Archives/2013

Gift coins vs old scrip

The text used to say:

One music store chain in the U.S. (Turtles Music, bought out by Blockbuster Music) even used gift coins, the same way old scrip was used (Old scrip was never used in this fashion. The statement is a blatant falsehood.)

I re-worded the first sentence, and deleted the commentry and what it's commenting about. I don't actually know of the truth of that, so some-one else might want to put it back in if it is true. It presently reads:

Turtles Music, a music store chain in the US that has been bought out by Blockbuster Music, even used gift coins. This was relatively successful, given that coins are hard to counterfeit.

—Felix the Cassowary (ɑe hɪː jɐ) 05:39, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

May I point out a minor confusion on your description? You use gift certificates and gift cards interchangeably. They are not and different rules apply in both accounting and redemption. Gift cards are not as debt or credit, it for the money put in the card. For no counterfeiting required unless illegibly saved.

Criticism of the Criticism Paragraph

"While considered a "lazy" gift by some, modern gift scrip is generally intended to be given by persons who wish to get the recipient something thoughtful, but don't know what the person wants."

Whether or not 'some' consider scrip as "lazy" or "thoughtful" is irrelevant. Author bias in use of pejorative "lazy" term.

"Some point out that trading real money for scrip is rather pointless, as it then ties up that money until it is used, and usually may only be used at one store."

Very weak. The point of the 'gift' card is for the recipient is to think fondly of the sender when receiving and redeeming the card. Also, gift cards are readily traded or sold online using dedicate sites or auction sites. Some gift cards have collectible value as well.

"VISA has been issuing pre-paid cards (not connected to any bank account) that can be used anywhere that accepts VISA credit cards or debit cards (American Express has also done this), although some view this as even more pointless, as cash works almost anywhere."

Hardly pointless and incorrect. The prepaid VISA cards have the same protections as travelers cheques if they are lost or stolen. The cards have PINS to deter theft. Cards can be reloaded (useful form of money transfer). Other benefits such as emergency assistance.

"Another bane to consumers is that stores will often "steal" value from the cards, particularly if they are not used after a certain period of time. Some even "expire", considered by some to be an outright theft."

More author bias in use of inappropriate & pejorative terms. Change to "charge fees" or "reduce the value of the card".

Overall, the paragraph should probably be removed or the author should have a more balanced approach. For example, the author fails to mention the potential benefits or liabilities to the business that employs the use of scrip."While considered a "lazy" gift by some, modern gift scrip is generally intended to be given by persons who wish to get the recipient something thoughtful, but don't know what the person wants."

why it stopped being used

"This was not due to the "right to seignorage" or the right for a country to mint currency without it being violated."

what was it due to? this statement by itself is not very useful.

It didn't stop being used. It's still used today. The page gives several examples. 216.36.186.2 (talk) 16:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Military Scrip

I just saw an old episode of MASH where the had scrip that expired. How was military scrip used? --Gbleem 11:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Tire Money

Would someone familiar with Tire Money add something about that. --Gbleem 11:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Gift Certificates

Is it true or is there proof that gift certificates are less common than gift cards? Or are there statistics that show what retailers have started using gift cards to replace gift certificates? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.69.116.124 (talk) 00:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

Scrip (often misspoken as script) is now used to mean a written medical prescription. "Do you need new scrip for your clonidine?"

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BetacommandBot 10:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

According to my father who lived there at the time, Seiling Oklahoma issued local scrip during the depression because "real" money was so limited. Apparently the bank issued the scrip in various denominations, and it could be used at grocery, hardward, feed store etc. Each time it was used, it was endorsed on the back, like a check, and after the third endorsement, it could be redeemed at the bank for cash. Txwildhare (talk) 14:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Scrip - other things of that name

In medieval times there was a type of bag called scrip, I believe. The word is used abundantly in Ellis Peters Cadfael stories which are considered historically accurate, but I am not a historian and don't know any more about it. Anyway, I think it should be at least mentioned.

(I came here in search for the bag). (217.87.169.214 (talk) 16:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC))

The term "scrip" for a small bag or wallet is archaic, and not encyclopedic enough to have an article in this encyclopedia. Sounds like you need to look in the Wiktionary, not here. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:19, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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Not an "american term"

Someone had claimed this to be an American term, but I removed that. Merriam Webster discounts this, dating its first usage to 1590. Oxford indicates that "land scrip" is specifically a North American term, but that does not extend to the general definition. Manning (talk) 04:57, 6 June 2012 (UTC)