Talk:Scone, Scotland

Scotland High‑importance

	Scotland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Scotland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Scotland and Scotland-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ScotlandWikipedia:WikiProject ScotlandTemplate:WikiProject ScotlandScotland articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

UK geography Mid‑importance

	United Kingdom portal This article falls within the scope of WikiProject UK geography, a user-group dedicated to building a comprehensive and quality guide to places in the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you wish to participate, share ideas or merely get tips you can join us at the project page where there are resources, to do lists and guidelines on how to write about settlements.UK geographyWikipedia:WikiProject UK geographyTemplate:WikiProject UK geographyUK geography articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

A fact from Scone, Scotland appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 December 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the town of Scone was the coronation site of Kings of Scotland for several centuries?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/December.

Wikipedia

Discussions moved from Talk:Baw game of Scone

Dave

One of the many characters associated with this company was David Lamond (see also Goofy, DJ, and briefly, Dangerous Dave). Is this a joke or what? Is this info trustworthy? Also the article is a need of clean-up --85.165.75.132 14:53, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Food

Re: link between the place and the baked good:

As for the assertion that the place is not linked to the foodstuff, what evidence do we have for this? I have read elsewhere that there may be a link between the two. Can anyone give any solid evidence for keeping this paragraph in? The difference in pronunciation doesn't seem to cut it as conclusive proof to my mind.Timwraight 18:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

-no response to to this, so I'll just go ahead and remove the offending sentences.Timwraight 13:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Info

How about some civic and demographic information appropriate to an article about a town? And a photo or two? Cranston Lamont 04:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is an article with some, though not a lot, of that kind of info at Scone. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 12:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is completely wrong and factually incorrect to say "...and Scottish kings continued to be crowned there until the end of the Scottish kingdom." The Scottish kingdom, one of the oldest in the world, is still very much in existence with Queen Elizabeth as its head. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wee Man 68 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Query about map

Map of Scotland showing location of Scone actually shows location (approximately) of Fort Augustus. Scone is some 70 miles to the south east of the position shown. Map needs to be altered! Jorvik29 17:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the infobox until the map gets fixed. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 04:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scone → Scone (village)
Scone (disambiguation) → Scone

Scone (bread) is at least as notable as the village of 4000 inhabitants. — AjaxSmack 02:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

Support. The most sensible thing would be Scone (bread) → Scone: the bread is the primary usage. Then, a hatnote on Scone for the disambig page and also for the Scottish village. 128.232.1.193 (talk) 17:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Given the number of other uses, I don't know if there is a primary use here. For me, it is only the pastry. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support quite obvious suggestion. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Move bread to primary, move Scone to Scone, Scotland, create redirects from Old Scone and New Scone to Scone, Scotland 70.51.11.219 (talk) 05:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't have an objection to the Scotland article moving to a better name based on this discussion as long as it is not at Scone. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, what is the basis for the assumption that Scone (bread) is the primary use? Given then number of items on the dab page, that would be a hard case to make. With no primary use, the dab page gets the main name space. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:07, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - The normal dab for places would put the article at Scone, Perth and Kinross which is already a redirect to Scone. Keith D (talk) 22:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Scone, Scotland rather than Scone, Perth and Kinross.Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 23:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose I mean ... Scone (village) ... seriously? Scone, Scotland ... maybe. The best I'd say is that both the historic town and the bread should be dabbed, but in practice settlement names take precedence ... or ought to when they don't. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support page Scone as the disambig page: in my experience people sey or write "scone" to mean the baked item much more than to mean the village or town. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Scotland or Perth and Kinross

I've noticed that this page has been moved a couple of times to Scone, Perth and Kinross, citing WP:NCPLACE#Scotland. But our guidelines do not mandate use of Scottish council regions when disambiguating famous places, such as Scotland's former capital Scone. The Scone, Perth and Kinross title is exceptionally ugly and confusing, as it appears to be a list of three settlements, Scone, Perth, Scotland, and Kinross, rather than locate Scone within a council region. Scottish council regions are not as intuitive geographical markers as analogous entities in other countries, because they have been changed so much and incorporate older units. Perth and Kinross, for instance, is Perthshire and Kinrossshire. It is still relatively common among the population and among academics to refer to somewhere like Scone as being in Perthshire and not 'Perth and Kinross'. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:33, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting Scotland Back to Alba

Yes, hello, I made several edits to the page yesterday, changing references to the Kingdom of "Alba" to the Kingdom of Scotland. Or just references to Alba to Scotland. As anyone with a modicum of knowledge on the subject is aware, Alba is the Gaelic word for Scotland, using the Kingdom of Alba or Alba in English articles makes absolutely no sense, if people want to know about the Gaelic word for Scotland they can read the articles on that.

What was especially ridiculous to find was "the Kingdom of Alba then later the Kingdom of Scotland", this is absolutely redundant. It's the same kingdom, this reads as nonsense.

Can we have it changed from Alba to Scotland, without an edit war, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.178.222 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]