Talk:Saving Private Ryan (soundtrack)

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 6, 2016	Good article nominee	Not listed
June 15, 2016	Good article nominee	Listed

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 11:41, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to offer a review. I've seen the film, but I've never listened to the album. Josh Milburn (talk) 11:41, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Recorded in Symphony Hall, Boston, Massachusetts, the scores feature the Tanglewood Festival Chorus on two tracks" Would it not be more interesting to give details of the orchestra that appears on all tracks, rather than a choir that appears on two?
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What is the "closed musical number technique"? Is this a bit technical for the lead?
"However, it only managed" Rhetoric
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"leading Williams' pieces were played over scenes without any fighting" Clumsy
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"By playing the Williams' scores over the breaks between the fighting sequences, it offers a moment of reflection for what happened" Again- this really needs to be reworked
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Williams made use of chose to make use of the closed musical number technique rather than use leitmotif" !!
"The score makes use of string instruments to provide a warm sound for some portions of the scores, while using brass instruments for more "solemn" parts of the soundtrack.[4] In addition, Williams used horn instruments to provide a pensive tone to the pieces.[4]" This kind of analysis is valuable, but the way it's currently phrased is problematic.

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 01:57, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can you really use "scores" in place of "tracks" like that? Would "score" not refer to the music as a whole?
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why "classic ƒM" rather than simply Classic FM? Also, perhaps you could rephrase this to avoid attributing a point of view to the radio channel?
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please be aware of MOS:LQ
"In addition to the film itself, Saving Private Ryan's soundtrack received several nominations" Clumsy
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You're inconsistent on your italicisation between the article body and the references. You're also inconsistent between "AllMusic" and "Allmusic".
Are Filmtracks and Tracksounds reliable?
There's no information about the album's release anywhere in the article body.
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What's the reference for the credits?
Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 20:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's an interview here; where's that from? Surely some valuable material there if it can be properly sourced.
Some Googling is suggesting that "Hymn for the Fallen" has been fairly widely played; I wonder if you have any sources discussing this?
There are loads of other sources which should be incorporated. For example, it appeared in the Classic FM hall of fame, which was reported in The Independent and The Telegraph.
A review:

Saving Private Ryan: Music From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (DreamWorks). In hindsound, music is the last thing one remembers from "Saving Private Ryan." It is absent from the action scenes that dominate the film, and when the John Williams score does appear, it almost serves as a kind of relief. This is Williams's 16th score for a Steven Spielberg film, and it may be his most subtle, from the somber grace of "Hymn to the Fallen" and "Revisiting Normandy" to the ominous overview of "Omaha Beach" and the personal paeans "Wade's Death" and "High School Teacher." Like the men it honors, the music is quietly heroic, full of survivalist determination and pragmatic melancholy. From Harrington, Richard (September 6, 1998). "Summertime, and the Movies Spawn CDs". The Washington Post. p. G04. [specifically the "Sunday Arts" section]

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 01:57, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another:

Saving Private Ryan soundtrack (Dreamworks).

John Williams' reflective score for Steven Spielberg's shattering war movie is sensitive without sensationalizing the subject.

The Boston Symphony Orchestra handles the resonant instrumentation.From Cohen, Howard; Deluca, Dan; Cristiano, Nick (August 13, 1998). "CD Reviews". Calgary Herald. p. HL10.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

I'm afraid this article seems like a long way from GA status. As it was only recently nominated and is only short, I'm going to close this review at the present time. I encourage you to fix the problems I've listed (and have another search for further sources- I've no doubt that there are more) and then renominate. Josh Milburn (talk) 12:38, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

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Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 16:57, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

The album cover needs an alt image description; please add one

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Link "John Williams" in the infobox's "Producer" parameter please

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Paragraph 1

Reword: "Recorded in Symphony Hall, Boston, Massachusetts, the scores were performed by the Boston Symphony Orchestra and feature vocals from the Tanglewood Festival Chorus on two of the ten compositions." --> "Recorded in Symphony Hall, Boston, Massachusetts, the scores were performed by the Boston Symphony Orchestra, with two of the ten compositions featuring vocals from the Tanglewood Festival Chorus." please

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph 2

I believe you neglected to mention that the "Best Instrumental Composition Written for a Motion Picture or for Television" award is a Grammy award, so please add that so the statement is clarified

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would add "Soundtrack opener" or even just "Opener" before "Hymn to the Fallen"

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Paragraph 1

Add Saving Private Ryan's release year in parentheses after the title of the movie please (in this case, it would read Saving Private Ryan (1998).[2][3]"

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also include the release years for movies Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Schindler's List please (also in parentheses of course.)

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph 3

Provide a link to "Military drums" please

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reword: "The two tracks entitled "Hymn to the Fallen" are the only two that feature any sort of vocals and bookend the album.[5][7]" --> ""Hymn to the Fallen" and its reprise are the only two tracks that feature any sort of vocals and bookend the album.[5][7]" please

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Paragraph 1

"Allmusic" --> "AllMusic"

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Provide a link to "AllMusic" please (in both the paragraph and the reception box to the right of the article.)

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Allmusic" --> "AllMusic"

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph 2

Please add the release year for Flags of Our Fathers in parentheses as well (in this case, the year is 2006.)

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph 4

"chosen by fan vote." --> "chosen by fan votes."

Fixed. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Other comments

Please add a "Release history" box immediately following the "Credits" section please; for an example, feel free to look at This Is What the Truth Feels Like

Done. Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

End of GA Review:

A very good article! I will be placing it on hold for seven days to allow for any changes or corrections to be made to it. Good luck and thanks! Cheers, Carbrera (talk) 23:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Fixed all these! Thanks for the review man, I appreciate it! Disc Wheel (T + C) 03:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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