Talk:Sara King

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No reason given for deletion; subject appears to be minimally notable.

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It may be that someone is acting in a systematic way to remove good faith tags left by editors in related articles Sara King, Odyssey Writing Workshop, and perhaps Codex Writers Group.

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24.130.16.124 (talk) 09:36, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the efforts to make this page notable do not compute. Winning college writing awards and attending workshops does not make a notable writer, and there is not a history of significant publication given. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vermiculite (talk • contribs) 20:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Well, I`m just reading the german version of the first Zero book, German title: " Zero - Kadett der Sterne" (translates as: Zero - Cadet of the Stars), and I think the translation into another language may be a hint for the notability of a writer. But that`s just my two cents.Maxvorstadt (talk) 15:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Responding that the previous comment came 10 years after the first: certainly an author may become notable in a decade, but that wouldn't make my comment in 2008 untrue. However, even since 2018, I cannot find much evidence for increased notability. In the landscape of self-publishing, a foreign translation is not a de facto maker of notability. Please note, I am not suggesting that independent authors cannot be notable. I have performed a cursory search for reliable, independent secondary sources for information on the Zero books, and have found mentions on a few personal review blogs at most. Vermiculite (talk) 02:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]