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the individual MSA's have inappropriate redirects. they link to articles that are better as "see also"s at end of article. they should have their own articles eventually.(mercurywoodrose)66.80.6.163 (talk) 16:48, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The fix is for someone to write the appropriate MSA articles. Binksternet (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Importance

These statistical areas are large, but the concept itself is of limited use, mostly for the feds to play with. the locally important divisions that are of highest importance are the San Francisco Bay Area, and the regions, such as East Bay, Peninsula, South Bay, Silicon Valley.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:17, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I sincerely doubt this 12-county area has much local, common usage, and thus might not warrant its own separate article. It seems more like a "fabrication" of the Office of Management and Budget to play with. When most people think of the Bay Area metro area, they most likely think about the common nine-county area, not a county as east as San Joaquin or an area as south as the southern tip of San Benito County. Is there evidence that most locals think that the portion of Pinnacles National Park in southern San Benito County is part of the "Greater Bay Area"? Can we find reliable sources that show that most locals think that Escalon, Linden, Lockeford, and other communities in Eastern San Joaquin County are part of the "Greater Bay Area"? Probably not. A significant majority of this article is copied from the main San Francisco Bay Area, along with the table from San Francisco Bay Area#Metropolitan area. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:47, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, this article exists because the larger federal definition was continually being inserted into the local 9-county article. Binksternet (talk) 16:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Map Issue

The map shown for this Combined Statistical Area doesn't have San Joaquin County highlighted, even though it is listed here as a constituent county for the CSA. I don't know how to draw a new map, but maybe somebody reading this will be able to crank out a new SVG. 216.162.164.50 (talk) 14:06, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that! When I put this article together there were only 11 counties in the definition. (See this version.) In light of the federal changes, I just asked Optigan13, the author of the 11-county image, to update it for 12 counties. Binksternet (talk) 14:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the SVG image after Fruitianslip had created a derivative png, and now we appear to be reverting each other. Only differences are SVG vs PNG and color choice as far as I can tell. As I said in my edit summary, I believe SVG is still preferred over PNG, and I have updated the SVG. Also that putting Maroon next to red may cause confusion. Let me know if the svg just absolutely needs another color. I'm not sure why this keeps getting reverted. -Optigan13 (talk) 16:31, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

#1(SVG) - File:San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA.svg SVG	#2(PNG)- File:San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA 2010 Census.png

SVG using SpringGreen for San Joaquin county	PNG using Maroon for San Joaquin county

I've tweaked it again to olive to try another color. Also, if you look in the file source in notepad there are id tags by county name so you can change the fill value to any hex value if additional counties come online. -Optigan13 (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The SVG looks better to me, with its white border around each colored county. The issue of color is thorny because of the number of counties, but I'm fine with the SVG colors. Binksternet (talk) 20:44, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent presentation

The individual Wikipedia pages for San Benito and Santa Cruz counties appear to be using a template that presents the said counties' areas in terms of square kilometers, with the area in square miles presented second, in parentheses. At the individual pages of the other ten counties in this Combined Statistical Area, the presentation is the opposite: square miles, followed by square kilometers in parentheses. Someone familiar with the operation of templates might want to bring the presentation at the pages for San Benito and Santa Cruz into conformity with the other ten presentations. That will reduce the chance that a Wikipedia reader who is interested in comparing or adding the areas of the CSA's twelve counties will err. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.52.13.217 (talk) 20:54, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Name of CSA

If San Francisco is larger than San Jose, why isn't this CSA called the "San Francisco - San Jose - Oakland CSA? A sincere question asked with no agenda. Just asking. 205.209.24.211 (talk) 15:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SF is smaller than San Jose, both in population (by about 15-20%) and area (by a factor of four or so). --joe decker ^talk 16:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Stanislaus and Merced counties

I noticed that as of Sep 2018 (https://www.census.gov/geographies/reference-files/time-series/demo/metro-micro/delineation-files.html), the Census Bureau now includes Stanislaus and Merced counties (aka Modesto and Merced MSAs) as part of the CSA. They should be incorporated into the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noahnmf (talk • contribs) 06:36, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]