Talk:Samba rock/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 01:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I will reviewing this, I'll add comments in here in the next few days! Kingsif (talk) 01:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Style

• Good overview in lead
• Well written with standard grammar and interesting flow
• Changed word "events" in Dance culture section to "genre", much more indicative and apt for subject and context
  • No. Stick to source, which says it was a turning point for the party culture, not the music genre. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Ah, thanks. I assumed (here, wrongly) that a turning point in the development re. dance parties would inevitably be a turning point when considering the style as a whole. Kingsif (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• The article doesn't appear to have a standardization of either "samba rock" or "samba-rock", which both appear. Both may be correct, but consistency through article would be nice.
  • Hyphenated for adjective form. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• List of artists may improve with some contextualizing, but is good for GA purposes
• "Reemerged" may not be the correct word in its context, it looks like it might be meaning "reborn" or just "changed", some synonym of those
  • "Refashioned" is more accurate. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• "...representative of this contingent in the contemporary MPB scene" isn't clear on whether Ben is representative of his era of music within the modern world, or of the genre altogether. More info is needed, and a more layman-friendly term to replace 'contingent' would be appreciated to aid average readers' understanding
  • More info is not needed, just rewording to render the paraphrase more clearly. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• Was it declared UNESCO World Cultural Heritage or just by Brazil internally? More info needed.
  • Conselho Municipal de Preservação do Patrimônio Histórico, Cultural e Ambiental da Cidade de São Paulo Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Thanks Kingsif (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• Generally good writing throughout
• Appropriate use of wikilinks to technical terms
• Structured coherently, with focus on chronology
• Fail needs some clarification edits
• Now pass

Coverage

• Lead good length for article
• Comprehensive background in Origins section
• Dance section seems short, but includes at least an outline of everything important; could improve with more detail
• Musical development is almost entirely focused on Jorge Ben after the contextual intro. Is this all there is to the music side?
  • There is a third paragraph, but yes, "samba-rock as a musical style is often attributed to Jorge Ben" (Ideologies of Marginality in Brazilian Hip Hop) Dan56 (talk) 01:59, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Thanks Kingsif (talk) 15:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• Article says the genre "reemerged" in the 2000s, without covering where it went (or indeed, that it did lose popularity at all) - missing info? Or is "reemerged" not the appropriate word (see style)
  • "Refashioned" is more accurate. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
• Should have more info on the modern practice, including more than a line on dance schools and being cultural heritage
  • What it should have is defined by reliable sources. That being said, I've added a little more. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Though what it can have is defined by RS, GA's do have a standard set of criteria that would want the coverage to not be lacking if the information is known (which is assumed to be published in RS's), and as a non-expert I found areas where I felt the coverage should be more. Having said that, reading it now it seems good. Thanks for the updates :)
• Fail - more coverage of certain areas recognized as needed
• Now, pass

Illustration

• Good use of relevant images
• Good use of and reason to include music sample
• Pass

Neutrality

• Looks good
• Pass

Verifiability

• Well sourced to high quality RS
• Pass

Stability

• Few major edits, none in recent months
• Pass

Copyright

• Check is clean
• Free images
• Good fair use rationale for music sample
• Pass

Overall

• on hold - to respond to style and coverage comments. Kingsif (talk) 22:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
• Thanks for responding well quickly! Kingsif (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2019 (UTC)