Talk:Sam Graves

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"Goth subculture" grant

I've removed the following paragraph from the article, and wanted to explain my reasoning:

"According to the Associated Press, Graves wasted nearly half of a $273,000 US Grant for spending on urban youth programs in his district on curbing gothic subculture in Blue Springs, Missouri in 2002.[10] Graves sought to spend $118,000 of that money for therapy, assessment and case management, as well as a series of town meetings to discuss the issue. But because there was not enough interest, Graves' project shifted from Goths to counterculture and negative influences."

The text of the reference can be found here

The problems with this paragraph are:

The reference makes clear the grant was overseen by Blue Springs City Administration, not Graves. Blue Springs applied for and received the grant, discovered the problem wasn't what they perceived it was, and reallocated/returned the funds. That may well be embarrassing, but if so its principally an embarassment for the City which made the decisions.
There's an undue weight issue in including this much detail on what was at best a minor political controversy, in an article of this overall length. If the Graves article was twenty pages long and detailed everything he's ever said or done, there might be a place for a single sentence on this grant. Or, if Graves was famous for campaigning against Goths, or the grant had been a centrepiece of his election campaign, or anything similar, it may be notable enough for inclusion. As is, a minor scandal in which he was tangentially involved is not deserving of this much (or really any) detail.

Other opinions welcome, and please note this is not about removing "criticism", just trivia. What we really need is more detail of Graves' voting record, stances on major isuses, that kind of thing. Gun ownership, abortion, the environment, taxes, religion, and so on and on. Euryalus (talk) 22:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Why isn’t anything being done to descalate the situation in Ukraine? Sending billions of dollars of taxpayer money and tanks and aircraft is not the answer and everyone knows it. The United States seems to be trying to stoke the fire at the cost of a nuclear catastrophe. The only voice American citizens have is through people like you. Please do the best you can to help the dire situation. Thank you 136.35.162.87 (talk) 01:49, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]