Talk:Sally Hemings/GA1

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 01:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will do this review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
According to the toolbox, the page has no disambiguation link issues.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
~~According to the toolbox, the page has about a half dozen external link issues.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- fixed external link issues (Monkelese (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - 1 still remains.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - which one, they all go to the actual page and videos work. (Monkelese (talk) 21:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - Click on the link to the right.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        Fixed issues (Monkelese (talk) 23:34, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        The tool is showing two new dead links.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:56, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        What tool? i'm not seeing it, all the links work fine whenever i click on it, should i remove the authors interview then? (Monkelese (talk) 23:10, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        Do you see a toolbox on the upper right of this page?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:42, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        yea, all it saying is I should a www. to the link, or replace it by using the tool...am I right?(Monkelese (talk) 01:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        Something is wrong. Can you try a different browser? It should say Dup detector, Disambig links and External links. You want the latter.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        I see the toolbox and I clicked on external links, saw the links, and it's highlighted in green, just no sure how to fix it there, I see Gordon-Reed's link looks fine... (Monkelese (talk) 02:15, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When you click on external links look for links highlighted in pink. Those need to be fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced the dead links with new sources. (Monkelese (talk) 03:09, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LEAD

~~If I am reading this correctly, the LEAD says she is the daughter of John Wayles and his slave Betty Hemings, but the main body says she was the born to Elizabeth Hemings and John Hemings.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

THE LEAD the lead says it because it addressed in the biography section, Sally Hemings was born to Elizabeth Hemings (1735–1807), the daughter of Susanna, an enslaved African, and John Hemings, an English sea captain.[8] Susanna and Elizabeth Hemings (also known as Betty Hemings) were first held by Francis Eppes IV, where Susanna was referred to as Susanna Epps.[9] John Hemings tried to buy them from Eppes, but the planter refused to give them up.[8] The mother and daughter were inherited by Francis' daughter, Martha Eppes, who took them with her as personal servants upon her marriage to the planter John Wayles.

sally was born to her mother who was named Elizabeth Hemings, but was called betty by all, that is addressed in the second sentence (also know as Betty Hemings) Betty was born to Susanna, slave woman, and a captain John Hemings, it later explains that John Wayles became Betty and Susanna's master, and took Betty as his concubine after becoming a widower.... hope this is addressed, however I rewrote it to make much less confusing. (Monkelese (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hemingses in Paris

The dollar amounts need current dollar conversions.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure how to do that, any suggestions please. (Monkelese (talk) 21:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - The last article I reviewed was Len Ford, which had to add the feature as well.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Converted all of them with the inflation calculator source attached to $2, however i wasn't able to find the exact amount for $2.50, so the calculator converted to $3 dollars, which is why i added almost in the parentheses. (Monkelese (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - The fix you made is no good. It will not update itself over the years. Use the template from where I sent you.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        i was able to convert the $50, but the others i couldn't because they were paid in the 1700's (1789), putting this year in showed an error sign. (Monkelese (talk) 00:11, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        I have a query in at Template_talk:Inflation#suggestions_for_1700s.3F.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:12, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        I am at a bit of a loss on giving further guidance in this regard. There is not an obvious solution.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:32, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jefferson–Hemings controversy

~~"The Jefferson–Hemings controversy has related to the question" -> "The Jefferson–Hemings controversy is related to the question"~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed it (Monkelese (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Descendants

~~I don't think the use of the {{main}} template is necessary in this context.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed this (Monkelese (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Grandchildren and other descendants

~~I don't think the use of the {{main}} template is necessary in this context.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed this (Monkelese (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Representation in other media

~~Each bulletpoint needs a WP:IC from a WP:RS.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Added more reliable sources (Monkelese (talk) 21:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - The 2007 one is still without an IC.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:10, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Removed that info, don't know who added it, couldn't find any source for it. (Monkelese (talk) 23:34, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See also

~~I think including her relatives in this section is odd.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:14, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Trimmed this by removing family members (Monkelese (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other

~~I don't know what kind of images to hope for, but is there anything tangential that can be added. At least a Jefferson image would be appropriate.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:41, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- added a pic of Jefferson (Monkelese (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't know if it matters for such and old work, but I'd add {{personality rights}} to the page at commons.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - I just picked a picture of jefferson from commons, figured all the pics are ok since it's more than a hundred years old.(Monkelese (talk) 21:34, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - Regardless, add the template to be safe.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        Added. (Monkelese (talk) 23:45, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        I see that someone has undone this with a cogent edit summary. That is fine.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:05, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
~~The references should not be in four different sections. Please merge them into one section with subsections.~~--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:41, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- merged them (Monkelese (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A family tree would be nice, but it is not required.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- i'll see if a family tree can be created within 7 days, can't promise it will be created though, maybe other editors will create it. (Monkelese (talk) 21:34, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's no biggie either way.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am putting this article on hold. I will observe progress and respond after 7 days.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:45, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Added a photo of Sally's grandson John Wayles Jefferson, who was said to look like Jefferson, including having red hair and grey eyes. He served as a colonel in the Union Army. (From the JW Jefferson article.) Have never made a family tree so am not sure if I can do that.Parkwells (talk) 20:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article is now very encyclopedic. Thank you for your hard work. I am now PASSING this article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:32, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]