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A fact from Saido Berahino appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 May 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Saido Berahino scored his first Premier League goal against Manchester United, the team which he supports?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Cloudz679 (talk · contribs) 04:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will be taking a look at the referencing separately, but here are my findings regarding the prose and general content:
breaking into the West Brom squad
His first few matches saw him score a hat-trick against Newport County,[3] before scoring the winning goal at Old Trafford against Manchester United.[4]
goal-tally or goal tally?
Despite leaving the club propping up the whole league
live on Sky Sports - is this necessary?
scored another brace
the club's coach Alan Kernaghan - caretaker manager?
the loan spell with Brentford ended early after 7 games (4 goals) due to personal reasons and returned to West Bromwich Albion on 3 April 2012.
scored a brace
manager Darren Ferguson said Berahino was expected to get more playing time.
went on to score a hat-trick
His penalty on 1 January 2014 won the match against Newcastle United, ending a 10-match streak without a win for the team,[29] and on 26 April he again netted the only goal, to defeat West Ham United.[30] does this mean the result was 1-0 against Newcastle?
again scored against Manchester United, scoring West Brom's second
Berahino would continue his fine form
prompted the club to offer the possibility of a new contract
due to investigation of alleged drink driving
On 28 February, Berahino netted his 17th goal of the season across all competitions, scoring the only goal of the game against Southampton after 72 seconds. in which competition?
- All suggestions up to this point have been done '''tAD''' (talk) 18:18, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Per MOS:BLOCKQUOTE, the quote at the top of the international section should be formatted as a block quotation
need consistency between U21 and U-21s, under-21, U-21(!)
bagging a brace
a year in which he scored a goal every other game - is this actually true?
- "With an enviable strike rate of one goal in every two games for the Under-21s last year, Berahino was often selected as the man to lead the line for Gareth Southgate’s side." '''tAD''' (talk) 18:42, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - This is not the same thing IMO. "Rate of a goal every other game", and not in fact "a goal every other game". Sorry to be picky. C 679 06:03, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The caption of one of the pictures mentions a 2011 youth tournament, but this is nowhere to be found in the prose
- Found it. And corrected it to 2012. '''tAD''' (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
no mention of youth teams before and after U17, and before U21, in the prose
called Berahino into the West Bromwich Albion first team
On 6 November 2014, England manager Roy Hodgson — who first called Berahino into the West Bromwich Albion first team in 2011[7] — named Berahino in his squad for the first time, ahead of a UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying match against Slovenia at Wembley Stadium on the 15th and a friendly against Scotland at Celtic Park three days afterwards
he "[needed] direction"
In January 2015, Goal.com reported that Berahino would be an ideal replacement if Mario Balotelli were to leave Liverpool, as he would "suit the Reds' style of play, also providing versatility in operating as a central striker or winger. At just 21, he has longevity..."[51] looks out of place. delete?

C 679 09:18, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- All done '''tAD''' (talk) 18:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stats table contains errors, e.g. FA Cup total should be 6 and not 5.
- Done '''tAD''' (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Current season league appearances needs updating. Infobox needs updating accordingly.
Infobox states height as 1.80 - the club page (used as citation) lists 1.796 and ESPN as 1.80 - but 1.78 is used elsewhere, among others, Premier League, Soccerway and Yahoo
- WBA appear to have measured him in inches and converted it to centimetres. The difference of 0.4 centimetres is minute, and Wikipedia's conversion to feet makes 5 11, the same as WBA have recorded '''tAD''' (talk) 18:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One dead link according to the checklinks tool (see the link at the top right of this page).
- Eliminated '''tAD''' (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Some links missing accessdates. C 679 09:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
He played youth football for Phoenix United, per this source, which may add depth to the article. C 679 09:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Added. Also has suitable information for other sections. '''tAD''' (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you call somebody up to the first team of a club? Typically "call up" is used for players joining international squads. Regarding the paragraph which currently starts "On 6 November 2014", I think the first sentence is far too long. The second one may be confusing to some readers, in particular "either match" would typically refer to 2 matches, but a number of matches are mentioned in the context and doubt should be removed from the statement. Regarding criteria 6, the images, all images appear to be compliant with the criteria. There was a question mark regarding the watermark in one of the images, but these are not specifically prohibited over at Commons, so I see no reason why it may not be allowed here. Referencing check will be conducted next. C 679 19:30, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Berahino was an academy player until Hodgson made the decision to promote him to the first team. Is promote a better word? '''tAD''' (talk) 19:32, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would agree, but "first promoted…to the first team" may be better off without the first "first". C 679 19:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing (lead + early life and club career)

I will split this but the following may be actioned:
"Berahino has the all-time third-highest goal tally for the England Under-21 side with 10 goals in 13 appearances, behind Francis Jeffers and Alan Shearer.[5]" is this a trivial basic fact? If not, it should be also mentioned in the body per WP:LEAD.
fn1 is redirecting to [1]
fn3 and fn25 are the same source supporting the same claim. Suggest removing citation from the lead.
fn4 and fn27, same case, note also that the title is currently incorrect in fn27
- All done up to here '''tAD''' (talk) 10:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Born in Bujumbura,[6]" source only mentions he was there before, not his birth
fn8 contains the name of his mother, there are grounds for inclusion, maybe his father's too if you can find it
"signed his first professional contract in the summer of 2011, on a one-year deal.[7]" wording very close to original, no mention of length at the source?
"Berahino extended his loan period twice before leaving Northampton at the beginning of February 2012. Despite Northampton being in last place in the league when he left, he had scored 6 league goals in 14 appearances.[15]" fn15 only supports the goals/games and nothing else (loan extensions, league position)
"Saido got the nod and he did well, but this was win built on a strong defensive performance as shown by another clean sheet."[17] needs a sic template
fn18 redirects to [2]
"with the club at the bottom of the table" not in citation
2012-13 season is a bit sparse. according to the fn he joined until 2 January but there is no text beyond October. What happened? fn28 mentions a knee injury...
- All done up to here
"manager Steve Clarke suggested that West Bromwich Albion should play Berahino regularly instead of signing a new forward" this could be put more clearly
fn31 check title
"He equalled his league tally from the previous season with a penalty in a 2–1 loss to Liverpool on 4 October.[33]" sounds like the 5th goal but only 3 were mentioned in the previous season?
"a 2–0 home win over Swansea City, pointing at the club badge in celebration.[41]" not in citation

C 679 10:32, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- All done up to here '''tAD''' (talk) 11:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Your last edits introduced "in a dead until 2 January 2013".

Referencing (remainder of article)

fn45 isn't formatted in the chosen standard
"contributing one goal as England won the tournament" not referenced, would be of interest to note opponent and score in the appropriate match, as well
"2010 UEFA European Under-17 Championship" is linking without a pipe but in the following sentence "European Championship" is piped to "2012 UEFA European Under-19 Championship"
fn47 lacks accessdate
"Berahino continued his scoring form" prose
"scoring twice to take his tally for the team to 4 goals in 3 games" highlights there was a match and a goal not discussed in this section. Lacks reference.
"including three to help the team qualify for the European Championship" this suggests that some of the previously-mentioned goals were in friendlies. Could it be specified?
close paraphrasing, article: "Hodgson admitted that Berahino had been in contention for a place in his previous England selection" source: "Hodgson said Berahino ... had been in contention for the recent qualifiers". I don't know if this is significant enough for inclusion at all, really.
Statistics are not up-to-date
There is no reference for his birthplace

C 679 06:03, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

accessdates also missing from fn5, fn45, fn51. That concludes the review. C 679 06:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- All done '''tAD''' (talk) 14:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One outstanding comment above (06:03). C 679 14:48, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Which one? '''tAD''' (talk) 14:49, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I have bolded two things, to clarify. C 679 14:51, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks for reminding me. All done now '''tAD''' (talk) 17:42, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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