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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightst a llion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 11:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Sacagawea Dollar → Sacagawea dollar – Rationale: "Dollar" is not a proper noun. Compare Susan B. Anthony dollar, common usage in print. --Quuxplusone 05:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Support for consistency (e.g. buffalo nickel @ Nickel (United States coin)) User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 12:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support you can see this and this for more times than I'd like to remember doing this. :)
Support "Dollar" is indeed not a proper noun.
Support - The denomination "dollar" should not be capitalized. - Len Bailey, Copywriter

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Composition

The Red Book shows the composition to be; 77.0 Copper, 12.0% Zinc, 7.0% Manganese, 4.0% Nickel, where is the source for the composition in the article? Jjmillerhistorian 00:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you read closer, that is the composition of the cladding not the entire coin. The core is all copper. Bobby ^{I'm Here, Are You There?} 02:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

pure copper core with outer layers of manganese brass...got it...thanks Jjmillerhistorian 11:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Statue of Liberty

I distinct remember some sort of pol in the mid-90s to chose between Sacagewea and the Statue of Liberty to be on the coin, and that Sacagewea was chosen by the Treasury despite the SL having been the poular choice. Does anyone remeber this the same way, or have a source which shows one way or the other? Thanks. - BillCJ 08:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, the poll was conducted by Michael Castle of Delaware, who preferred the Statue of Liberty design over Sacagawea. It's now been added to the article if you're still interested.-RHM22 (talk) 14:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the poll was actually conducted on behalf of Castle, not by Castle, so he probably didn't directly influence the results.-RHM22 (talk) 14:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Simpsons

In an episode of the Simpsons Marge shows the children a Sacagawea. They ask,"What is that? A quarter? A chuck-e-cheese token?" Marge says, No, its a sacagawea gold dollar. You can trade it in at the bank for a real dollar. (not exact quote). This piece of pop culture illustrates that it is a queer piece of money that is not taken seriously. --Jon in California 2 Aug 2007

Yes, we'll take that as legitimate fact from the very reliable source that is The Simpsons. lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.142.89 (talk) 01:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well The Simpsons is a reliable source for the fact it was mentioned on The Simpsons, for whatever that's worth. Pop culture mention? It's debatable how important that is to mention in the article though, I suppose. 2601:283:4300:7AE0:9899:2532:374A:1C8E (talk) 04:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Sacagawea?

Will there be any Sacagawea dollars produced in 2008? I read something in COINage magazine about the mint not producing any, does anyone know? Gecko G (talk) 07:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they are. As of July 31, 2008, the US Mint's website shows 3.64 million "golden dollars (GD)" made since January 1. "Golden dollars" is the Mint's house term for the Sac dollar. This number may increase by year's end. Photos of the '08 Sac can be found at this blog entry. - Deeplogic (talk) 17:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article overhaul

Just to let everyone know (Sacagawea dollar has over 30 watchers), I have overhauled the article as part of the drive to expand numismatic coverage on Wikipedia, largely begun by Wehwalt. Though I believe the article has been expanded significantly, I have removed some information. I don't think any of the information removed is really relevant or important to the subject, but I would be glad to address the concerns of anyone that does. The most notable removal is probably the table of mintage figures, which I believe to somewhat unimportant in this article, as mintage figures for years other than the first and second (which are now located in the prose of the article) are largely uninteresting and not really all that useful to most readers, in my opinion. Also, it's pretty easy to find them in a lot of sources for anyone that is interested. Like I said, if anyone objects, feel free to add them back in or leave a message here on the talk page. Thanks,-RHM22 (talk) 14:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How can this article be complete without saying that it has essentially been replaced?

How can this article be complete without saying that it has essentially been replaced?99.142.3.4 (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It has? Our article suggests since before your post [1] that since 2009 a new version of the Sacagawea dollar was produced with a different reverse (although few of these have been ordered) and mentions a 2011 version so I'm surprised it has been replaced Nil Einne (talk) 19:11, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing that they meant replaced as the main US 1 dollar coin. North8000 (talk)

But replaced by what? Our article suggests they are still one of the main US 1 dollar coins (albeit in slightly redesigned form) with a new design this very year, along with the concurrent Presidential $1 Coin Program. Since neither seem very popular, I don't think you can say either the Sacagawea dollar or the Presidential $1 Coin Program are more 'main'. If this information is incorrect, then this needs to be corrected but just saying random things doesn't help the situation Nil Einne (talk) 11:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at Presidential $1 Coin Program it does say:

Unlike the State Quarter program and the Westward Journey nickel series, which suspended the issuance of the current design during those programs, the act directed the Mint to continue to issue Sacagawea dollar coins during the Presidential series. The law states that at least one in three issued dollars must be a Sacagawea dollar. Furthermore, the Sacagawea design is required to continue after the Presidential program ends. These requirements were added at the behest of the North Dakota congressional delegation to ensure that Sacagawea, whom North Dakotans consider to be one of their own, ultimately remains on the dollar coin.

However, Federal Reserve officials indicated to Congress that "if the Presidential $1 Coin Program does not stimulate substantial transactional demand for dollar coins, the requirement that the Mint nonetheless produce Sacagawea dollars would result in costs to the taxpayer without any offsetting benefits." In that event, the Federal Reserve indicated that it would "strongly recommend that Congress reassess the one-third requirement."[4] The one-third requirement was later changed to one-fifth by the Native American $1 Coin Act,[5] passed on September 20, 2007, and Sacagawea dollars were only 0.8% of the total dollar coins produced through November 2007.[6]

This info probably should be added to this article if better sources can be found. At the current time, it appears to be mostly WP:Syn relying on primary sources which may partially explain why it doesn't make sense (how there can be an alleged legal requirement to produce at least ~~1/5~~1/3 in one form but then the actual production figures are very far below ~~1/5~~1/3 isn't explained) and doesn't exactly improve on the flaws in this FA.

Nil Einne (talk) 11:52, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe list total mintage figures. Since the Presidential series came out it looks like prevalence of it vs. Sacagawea has been over 13:1 (2.2 billion vs 168 million). I remember reading that there was some pushback alleging that making a guide vs. presidents the face of the coin was a PC move. North8000 (talk) 12:40, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to our current mintage figures, the 2011 Sacagawea coin was minted more often than either of the four 2011 Presidential Coins, so it was certainly not being replaced in 2011. Is there any info on what the 2012 mintage numbers will be, now that the Presidential Coins are only minted for collectors? According to the U.S. mint, 5.6 million have been minted in the first two months of 2012 alone, with a new design...--Roentgenium111 (talk) 22:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@Nil Einne: AFAIK, the 1/3 requirement was dropped before it came into force; the 1/5 requirement (though part of a 2007 Act) came into force only in 2009, so there was nothing wrong in 2007. Since 2010 the quota has been fulfilled yearly. (In 2009 it was only 1/5 the number of Presidential Coins, not of all coins, for whatever reason.) --Roentgenium111 (talk) 21:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

encased Sac dollar

Encased Collectors International produced a medallion with this coin embedded: eBay auction for encased Sac dollar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raquel Fitleigh (talk • contribs) 00:42, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2017 & 2018 Sacagawea dollars

This page says the Sacagawea dollars will cease production in 2016. However, an article posted back in October said that the Native American dollar would continue into 2017 and 2018. --Jack Gaines (talk) 23:33, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a single editor that keeps quoting the Native American Coin Act. I skimmed over it and did not find a 2016 ending date quoted. It seems that the editor has confused it with the Presidential $1 Coin Program, which will indeed end with the Ronald Reagan coin release in July of this year. The Native American series will continue however, quoting from the US Mint's website: "Following the conclusion of the Presidential $1 Coin Program, the Native American $1 Coin Program coins will be issued in any order determined to be appropriate by the Secretary of the Treasury ..." Ref. --Shibo77 (talk) 00:14, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To User:Salem Leo, please source your statement "cancelled due to lack of demand" before mass changes/reversions. As it is now, the Native American Coin Act source does not state that the program ends in 2016. --Shibo77 (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Picture is of 2009 design, not the 2010 design

The reverse of the 2009 design was shown, but with a description of the 2010 reverse design. I corrected the description so it's of the 2009 design that is actually pictured. 2601:283:4300:7AE0:9899:2532:374A:1C8E (talk) 04:09, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Updated material on reverse images

I came here to update the information on the designs for the reverses. The previously announced design for 2023 ended up not being as planned in 2018, and i supplied a ref. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 02:01, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the Canadian dollar coin

It was based on the Canadian design, but the article seems to say that nowhere. 142.181.86.136 (talk) 00:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source? I'm a numismatist, and I've never heard such a statement about the US dollar coin. While it seems plausible, the gold coloring was introduced over a decade after the Canadian dollar coin in order to avoid confusion with the similarly-sized quarter dollar, a problem which had plagued the preceding SBA dollar. - ZLEA _T\^C 00:38, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]