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Date	Process	Result
April 4, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
May 24, 2020	Good topic candidate	Promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 6, 2020.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Sabine Lake initially marked the border between French Louisiana and Spanish Texas, then the United States and the Republic of Texas, and now the U.S. states of Louisiana and Texas?

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Juliancolton (talk · contribs) 04:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, thanks for your efforts to improve this article to GA status. I'll be reviewing it against the GA criteria, leaving any comments, questions, or suggested improvements as I read along. The article looks strong at first glance, so I don't anticipate any major obstacles on the path to promotion. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should "coast" in "Gulf Coast" be capitalized? It is in the infobox, and in our article on Gulf Coast of the United States, but not in this article's text.

Yeah, I can't tell which way to go on this. I've tried to at least make it consistent. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Was the decision to use the two-F, one-T spelling of "Lafitte" a deliberate one? Jean Laffite, linked in the article, redirects to Lafitte.

The sources I used in writing the article spelled it that way; I'll switch it to the way WP has it. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps pipe-link 1886 Indianola hurricane in the "History" section, for stronger context.

Good catch, done. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While not a fatal omission, I'd be interested to read a brief description of public access points and, if any, recreational trails, parks, or piers along the lake.

I'll see what sources I can find! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These are the only issues (to use that word loosely) that I could identify. The article is well-researched and informative, with properly formatted citations to reliable sources. A spot-check reveals no factual discrepancies or close paraphrasing. Images are appropriately licensed and captioned. The article's structure, categorization, and presentation are sound. While brief, it's an interesting read, and your attention to detail regarding wikilinks proved useful for unfamiliar terminology. I find that the article satisfies the GA criteria, and will promote it accordingly. I trust that, at your convenience, you will be able to address my comments above—they don't justify stalling the nomination. Nice work. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Satellite view of Sabine Lake

... that Sabine Lake (pictured) has marked the border between French Louisiana and Spanish Texas, the United States and the Republic of Texas, and now the U.S. states of Louisiana and Texas? Source: "By earlier treaties with Spain and the Republic of Texas, the boundary between Texas and Louisiana was placed at the western landfall of the Sabine River, Lake and the Sabine Pass, although the common boundary in more recent times had been placed in mid-stream." ([1])

Reviewed: Salgo v. Leland Stanford Jr. University Board of Trustees

Improved to Good Article status by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Bryanrutherford0, I'll review this. epicgenius (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - There needs to be a source after every sentence that is mentioned in the hook. Per WP:DYK#Cited hook one source at the end of the paragraph is not enough. This should be easy, though. Just copy the ref and paste it after every sentence.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: epicgenius (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 16:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. epicgenius (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bay?

Is Sabine Lake generally regarded as a bay? My understanding of that term is that it would be directly adjacent to a larger body of water, not connected through a channel. I would have thought estuary would be a better descriptor. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 13:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In its natural state it was more of a lake, but since its channelization it has become more of an estuary bay; lots of saltwater intrusion through the ship channel. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]