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[edit]Deleted some text apparently copied from The Scilly News, March 2007. The rest of the text needs line-by-line comparison to ensure it isn't also copied.LeadSongDog (talk) 04:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Eywitness account
[edit]from Tim Farrow RAF Chivenor aircrew on BBC Radio 4 - Saturday Live, 8 May 2010 -- John (Daytona2 · Talk · Contribs) 08:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
There was no "Adequate" plan submitted then or now.
[edit]Over thirty years ago I had occasion to research the disaster and so no longer have references, but two things were clear. 1. There was no good concept of what to do. 2. Any and every idea that anyone had was tried somewhere, no matter how crazy the idea. What has become clear since then is the only technology that has improved is the technology of public relations, and the technical "fixes" are the same things invented then, but worse, the mistakes in use are still the same as was realized even then. Of particular note bad ideas in the use of booms as a parallel barrier as opposed to a diagonal funneling to concentrate the oil to a containment location was noted then, but still done today.
There were extensive lists of all the ideas that were tried, and a fair description of the results of those attempts. If someone has access to them, that would be much more useful a Wiki than the time and place. I have only memories to refer to, but the supposed existence of an "adequate plan" was not among those memories, and considering that such a plan does even now not exist, I think that that reference should be removed, and if there were any plan then it should be linked to and the pejorative "adequate" still not be included.Dragonwlkr (talk) 11:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- True. Despite numerous oil tanker sinkings by submarines in WWII, one suggestion was to burn the TC's oil off. You can tell how clueless someone (PR/manager) is when they suggest burning oil off. This might have been the event for research in dispersants. 143.232.210.38 (talk) 20:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Bit puzzled
[edit]So I cannot find a reference for BP being operator rather than chartered of the Torrey Canyon? --BozMo talk 08:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I am not sure that you are a native speaker of English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.175.160 (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Continued use declared in the German Wikipedia
[edit]german wikipedia says, the remaining front half after the refurbishment was being used afterwards. Have a look there and tell us more? --Anidaat (talk) 11:20, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
In the spring of 1971 I was stationed at the US Navy base in Norfolk, Virginia. There, while docked at the destroyer and submarine piers, I saw what appeared to be the bow and stern of a tanker attached to make the stubbiest tanker possible. The name painted on it was Torrey Canyon. This abbreviated vessel was located just off the Navy property on the side away from the main base. This sighting tells me that any wreck remaining in the sea at/near the wreck site is the center of the vessel, the cargo tanks. It also tells me that the German Wikipedia may well be correct as it is believable that a new middle was fabricated. Perhaps someone knows how to follow up and determine the actual subsequent use/fate of the vessel? Bookwyrm622 (talk) 23:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
The relevant sentence in the German article, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrey_Canyon , is: "Von 1972 bis 1979 wurde sie vom niederländischen Unternehmen SBM Offshore N.V. unter dem Namen IFRIKIA - FPSO III als 70.000 Tonnen fassende FPSO (Floating Production Storage and Offloading Unit) für das Mineralölunternehmen Elf Aquitaine im Ashtart Feld vor der tunesischen Küste betrieben.[2]" The link to the source does not work. Relevant back-and-forth (much speculative) can be found here: https://www.captainsvoyage-forum.com/forum/club-international-things-from-around-the-world/the-world-pilot-guides/1409-what-place-is-this/page47 Via Google Books one finds the following two snippets: First, "Torrey Canyon is to be reconstructed first and is due to be completed in 5/73, probably under the name Ifrikia" (Marine News, date unclear [likely 1972], p 12). Second, "What happened to 'Torrey Canyon' The forebody of the former tanker Torrey Canyon is being extended in Piraeus to make ... Virtually unmanned, Ifrikia, as it is to be known, will serve as a storage barge and terminal for a new offshore oil-field" (Marine Engineers Review, 1973, p 75 [in fact, an index entry with abstract]). Further searching of Google books yields other snippets, including this one: "Someone renamed it the Ifrikia but in October 1985 a tug by the name of Atlas towed the rusting hulk off to Barcelona"(New Scientist 12 March 1987, p 64). Finally the same source yields: "Renamed Ifrikia, this tank barge was subsequently towed to Malta in October, 1973, where she continued her life as a storage barge. She was later renamed FfSO III and it was under this name that she was sold to Spanish shopbreakers [sic] in 1985" (Norman Hooke, Maritime Casualties, 1997, p 636, which is a page covering the Torrey Canyon). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.179.75 (talk) 02:52, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Citation
[edit]The phrase "citation needed" is in the text about the depth of the wreck. The depth of the sea at that point is available in charts, I imagine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.175.160 (talk) 16:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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