Talk:SMS Helgoland (1912)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Parsecboy (talk · contribs) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   It would be good to a sentence or two on the outbreak of WWI in the first para of the service history section.

   Done.

   In the same vein, add a line on the end of the war in the last para of the Austrian section.

   I don't even know where she was based when it ended. What would you suggest?

   It doesn't need to specifically reference the ship, I'm looking for a more general statement about the end of the war. Maybe link to Villa Giusti, Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and Trianon as the major formal steps in ending the war with Austria-Hungary. On a related note, was Helgoland included in the transfer of ships to the new Yugoslavian Navy at the end of the war?

   Alright, I've added what I think is necessary. Parsecboy (talk) 17:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

   Link to Battle of the Strait of Otranto (1917) in the body

   Even though it's linked in the lede?

   I usually repeat links in the lead and the body, especially if they're a ways down in the article.

   Halpern (Naval History of WWI) has some information not included in the article - forex, on the night of 22-23 November 1915 Helgoland, Saida, and the 1st Torpedo Division raided the Albanian coast and sank a pair of Italian transports

   This also has material that could be added

   According to this, Helgoland was involved in suppressing the Cattaro mutiny in 1918 - here's another account.

   According to this, they sank the drifter Beneficent on the 31 May 1916 operation.

   This says she was commissioned in August 1914, not September. Sondhaus confirms August here, on page 198. Sondhaus also mentions the ship several times - may be some good material there as well.

   All the Sondhaus refs are to the battleship, the island or the battle. My source says that she was completed on 5 Sep, but she could have been commissioned earlier than that. Added all the rest of the info.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I'll do this review shortly. Parsecboy (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Passing now. Parsecboy (talk) 17:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

First fight

This article states, that Helgoland's first combat came on 17 August 1915, but cs:Jaroslav Hrbek in Velká válka na moři, 2. díl (Great War at sea, 2nd part) states, that Helgoland was part of the Austrian raid on Italian coast on 24 May 1915. It bombarded the town Barletta and when departing, run into Italian destroyers Aquilone and Turbine. Helgoland starts firing, but both Italian ships run away. Turbine encounter Austrian destroyers and was sunk. --Silesianus (talk) 18:20, 12 November 2014 (UTC)