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use as minelayers

the article denies the use as minelayer, but the brummer-class article states this use. pie2001:760:2C00:8160:C1CB:D05A:BEB:BF82 (talk) 16:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)tro[reply]

There's a difference between being designed as minelaying cruisers and actually being operated as such. Parsecboy (talk) 16:36, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree perfectly, indeed I wrote that the Brummer-class article says that they put mines into the sea, while this article states that the Brummer never did this. To be precise

this article: Despite being designed as a minelayer, the German Navy never operated her as such.

class-article: The two ships laid a series of minefields during their career, though their ...

Another point: the article states that the two forward guns where side-by-side, while the photo (and the drawing in the german WIKI and the Brummer-class article) shows all the 15-cm guns on the centerline: 1 at bow, one between the funnels and two at stern.

Bremse has the same problem with the guns.

pietro 2001:760:2C00:8160:C1CB:D05A:BEB:BF82 (talk) 16:43, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Had a look in Hildebrand et. al. and they mention the minefield of Norderney, so it seems Herwig is mistaken. At some point I'll get around to rewriting the articles to include the material from Hildebrand, but for the time being, we can remove the line form Herwig. Good catch. Parsecboy (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]