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2020 Declaration

I'm still identified as someone who has previously edited this page while also having a personal connection to Mr. Meili having worked on his previous campaigns as a volunteer, mostly in the area of social media. But I wanted to note that I am once again planning to update this page but am still doing so as a volunteer who is not receiving any compensation. I will endeavour to add only factual, neutral, sourced information but let me know if you require anything further and by all means, feel free to rework anything I add if you know the Wikipedia conventions better than I do!

--Headtale (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't know the exact resolution process but rather than continuing overwriting each other's changes, can someone from the Wikipedia community step in and make a ruling as to whether the quote I've listed in this article multiple times from Dr. Dr. Chanchal Bhattacharya is accurate or inaccurate as others keep claiming.

Here is the quote:

Dr. Chanchal Bhattacharya, an Alberta political scientist who studies the use of new technology in political campaigns said:
"The Meili campaign is different because it’s exploiting the full potential of the Internet as a campaign tool. Three of the campaigns are using the internet like it’s still 2000. Despite very limited resources, Meili is effectively using Web 2.0 social media like YouTube and Facebook to reach new voters and energize existing ones. It’s a 21st-century Saskatchewan campaign.” [4]

Here's the evidence that Meili is using the Internet in a way that none of his competitors are: 1) Ryan Meili has numerous YouTube videos online as well as tributes from supporters, audience clips of him speaking earlier in his career and more. The only other campaign to have anything on YouTube is Mr. Lingenfelter's who has a static, nine-minute one-shot of people speaking at a podium from his campaign launch more than six months ago.

2) Meili has launched a money bomb. I don't have a citation but I am fairly certain this is one of if not the first times this has happened in Canadian politics.

3) Meili is using other services such as Basecamp, Flickr and a personal blog as part of his campaign as well.

4) Other candidates simply having signed up for an account doesn't mean you're "using" Web 2.0 technology as has been claimed by one of the people who keeps changing my wording. Mr. Lingenfelter's Twitter account hasn't been updated since April 3 and another candidate's Twitter account has never had a post.

Whatever the decision, I thank-you in advance for your assistance in rectifying this situation. Headtale (talk) 21:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing this. I certainly have no trouble with containing information about the use of technology by the Meili campaign. The issue is the quote stating other campaigns are using technology as if its 2000. Which is more of an opinion and not based on facts? All candidates have facebook accounts, some have twitter accounts which may not be active, and others have video on their website and on youtube. So I do question using a quote which seems more based on opinion then fact. I certainly can agree to having the article list the forms of media which the Meili campaign is using but not through a quote which is inaccurate.Whippedcan (talk) 22:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is - the quote isn't from a Meili team member or a volunteer or some anonymous comment on a blog - it's from a PhD at the University of Alberta who studies the use of technology in political campaigns! His wording may sound like opinion and yes, we can quibble about "they're using it like it's 2000" line (neither Facebook nor YouTube existed in 2000 for one thing!) So on a purely factual level, the quote is inaccurate.

But my point in inserting it is that the gist of the quote - that Meili is using technology in a much more innovative, cutting-edge way than any of the other leadership campaigns by far, is completely true. Just as one example, someone who reverted my changes earlier (can't remember if it was you or someone else) added the fact that Lingenfelter has had video on his web site since it was launched with the implication that this was the same as what Meili was doing on YouTube. But that's exactly what this quote is getting at - by being on his web site instead of YouTube, there is no opportunity for viewers to comment, respond to, embed, favourite, see view counts or do any of the other typical things people expect to do with their Internet content these days. Link's use of video is very old-fashioned (at least in Internet time) compared to what Meili has done.

Headtale (talk) 23:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You do not post inaccurate quotes on pages. Just like inaccurate information is removed. I fully support listing the wide range of uses of technology that the Meili campaign uses.Whippedcan (talk) 23:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So you'd be fine if I edited to remove the line about "other campaigns using it like it's 2000" since everything else in the quote is accurate?

Headtale (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't heard back from you yet so am going to revert your change with the quote edited and we can continue to discuss if you want.

Headtale (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From: Ryan Meili <ryanmeili (at) hotmail.com> Sent: Mar 19, 2009 1:40 PM To: jason (at) hammond.net, permissions-en (at) wikimedia.org

Hello, I own the rights to the campaign photo posted by Jason Hammond to the Ryan Meili entry on Wikipedia and authorize him to upload it. Sincerely, Ryan Meili —Preceding unsigned comment added by Headtale (talk • contribs) 20:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Head. The {{request edit}} process may be a good alternative for this kind of thing. By putting {{request edit}} above your Talk page comment, it will be put into a queue, where you will receive a clear "decline" or "accept" from an impartial editor with a brief explanation.Corporate 00:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of Interest/Acting in Good Faith Declaration

I will be regularly editing this page as the Sask NDP campaign progresses. I will be doing so as a volunteer for the Ryan Meili campaign. I recognize that Wikipedia values NPOV among other principles and will do my best to edit this article while respecting those principles.

Headtale (talk) 03:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]